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You absolutely have a right not to be outraged or offended by someone's opinion at your place of employment if you work for a company with any sense. Companies

by wan23 9y ago

You absolutely have a right not to be outraged or offended by someone's opinion at your place of employment if you work for a company with any sense. Companies that play fast and loose with HR risk becoming the next Uber - a company whose toxic environment has caused more than a few talented engineers to say they wouldn't work there for literally a million dollars.

koolba 9y ago
You really don't though. You have a right not to be harassed but you don't have an inherent right not to be outraged based on whatever cockamamie standards you choose that morning. I'm personally outraged by people who think it's okay to write emails and chat messages with improper punctuation and spelling mistakes. Mixed case sentences, emojis, and made up capitalized abbreviations make my blood boil. But none of that is grounds for me getting those people terminated. If I don't want to deal them I can go work somewhere else. That's the right I have. Not the right to silence them. It's the same if they decide to express their political opinions or sports affiliations.
- dbnoch 9y ago
  You do see that you are comparing 1. woman being biologically inferior to 2. sports affiliations. For another example: It would be the same as saying Blacks are inferior to 2. political opinions. That is NOT OK. It is not a question of being outraged, it is a question of a hostile workplace.
  - koolba 9y ago
    > You do see that you are comparing 1. woman being biologically inferior to 2. sports affiliations. No I'm not. I'm saying that there is a distinction between being offended/outraged and being harassed. Just because someone is offended by something doesn't mean it's harassment. My examples were explicitly meant to be silly to demonstrate the point.
  - collyw 9y ago
    He said they were different, not inferior. He pointed out some differences that would be considered superior.
AOsborn 9y ago
> You absolutely have a right not to be outraged or offended by someone's opinion at your place of employment if you work for a company with any sense. What? Harassment is different and can be objectively defined in the scope of the business and/or role. But outrage/offense is subjective. You can change your views from one day to the next, or flip perspectives over lunch. You don't get to come back from lunch with a new view, and have a 'right not to be offended'. You come across as very entitled.

by wan23 9y ago

koolba 9y ago

You really don't though. You have a right not to be harassed but you don't have an inherent right not to be outraged based on whatever cockamamie standards you choose that morning. I'm personally outraged by people who think it's okay to write emails and chat messages with improper punctuation and spelling mistakes. Mixed case sentences, emojis, and made up capitalized abbreviations make my blood boil. But none of that is grounds for me getting those people terminated. If I don't want to deal them I can go work somewhere else. That's the right I have. Not the right to silence them. It's the same if they decide to express their political opinions or sports affiliations.

dbnoch 9y ago
You do see that you are comparing 1. woman being biologically inferior to 2. sports affiliations. For another example: It would be the same as saying Blacks are inferior to 2. political opinions. That is NOT OK. It is not a question of being outraged, it is a question of a hostile workplace.
- koolba 9y ago
  > You do see that you are comparing 1. woman being biologically inferior to 2. sports affiliations. No I'm not. I'm saying that there is a distinction between being offended/outraged and being harassed. Just because someone is offended by something doesn't mean it's harassment. My examples were explicitly meant to be silly to demonstrate the point.
- collyw 9y ago
  He said they were different, not inferior. He pointed out some differences that would be considered superior.

AOsborn 9y ago

> You absolutely have a right not to be outraged or offended by someone's opinion at your place of employment if you work for a company with any sense. What? Harassment is different and can be objectively defined in the scope of the business and/or role. But outrage/offense is subjective. You can change your views from one day to the next, or flip perspectives over lunch. You don't get to come back from lunch with a new view, and have a 'right not to be offended'. You come across as very entitled.