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You can find 4 scientists who'll tell you global warming is a hoax. Just find one who can take this manifesto, provide a thoughtful analysis, collect published

You can find 4 scientists who'll tell you global warming is a hoax. Just find one who can take this manifesto, provide a thoughtful analysis, collect published critiques and discuss and argue them. This just seems to be a few modestly credentialed academics really just using this as a springboard for their own view points.

dionidium 9y ago
You might be interested in this debate: Steven Pinker & Elizabeth Spelke | The Science of Gender & Science | Mind Brain Behavior Discussion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hb3oe7-PJ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hb3oe7-PJ8
averagewall 9y ago
Even without credentials, has anyone at all shown any part of the manifesto to be false yet?
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- hackcasual 9y ago
  https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so-about-this-googlers-manifesto-1e3773ed1788 https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so-about-this-googlers-man...
  - EddieRingle 9y ago
    > I’m not going to spend any length of time on (1); if anyone wishes to provide details as to how nearly every statement about gender in that entire document is actively incorrect,¹ and flies directly in the face of all research done in the field for decades, they should go for it. But I am neither a biologist, a psychologist, nor a sociologist, so I’ll leave that to someone else.
    - hackcasual 9y ago
      Yes? He's admitting he doesn't have the expertise to address that. Evo-psych is definitely not a generally accepted scientific field, so I don't really take issue with his off hand dismissal.
      - carapat_virulat 9y ago
        As far as I understood the original manifesto was about the average population characteristics of currently existing men and women, so those studies shouldn't have anything to do with Evo-psych, I mean they would be valid even if evolution didn't exist.
        stagbeetle 9y ago
        There was a passing mention of evolutionary psychology in one of the points where the author was explaining other reasons for the gender disparity.
  - kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
    Someone asked you to link to resources that specifically prove parts of the manifesto as wrong. And you replied with a blog that literally says that they will not engage in any discussion on the issues that are under contention.
    - hackcasual 9y ago
      Any part of the manifesto. And the blog post addresses 2 out of 3 parts of it.

dionidium 9y ago

You might be interested in this debate: Steven Pinker & Elizabeth Spelke | The Science of Gender & Science | Mind Brain Behavior Discussion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hb3oe7-PJ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hb3oe7-PJ8

averagewall 9y ago

Even without credentials, has anyone at all shown any part of the manifesto to be false yet?

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hackcasual 9y ago
https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so-about-this-googlers-manifesto-1e3773ed1788 https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so-about-this-googlers-man...
- EddieRingle 9y ago
  > I’m not going to spend any length of time on (1); if anyone wishes to provide details as to how nearly every statement about gender in that entire document is actively incorrect,¹ and flies directly in the face of all research done in the field for decades, they should go for it. But I am neither a biologist, a psychologist, nor a sociologist, so I’ll leave that to someone else.
  - hackcasual 9y ago
    Yes? He's admitting he doesn't have the expertise to address that. Evo-psych is definitely not a generally accepted scientific field, so I don't really take issue with his off hand dismissal.
    - carapat_virulat 9y ago
      As far as I understood the original manifesto was about the average population characteristics of currently existing men and women, so those studies shouldn't have anything to do with Evo-psych, I mean they would be valid even if evolution didn't exist.
      - stagbeetle 9y ago
        There was a passing mention of evolutionary psychology in one of the points where the author was explaining other reasons for the gender disparity.
- kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
  Someone asked you to link to resources that specifically prove parts of the manifesto as wrong. And you replied with a blog that literally says that they will not engage in any discussion on the issues that are under contention.
  - hackcasual 9y ago
    Any part of the manifesto. And the blog post addresses 2 out of 3 parts of it.