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Well, I can tell you were NOT to have that discussion: publicly at work. That said, as a white man myself, I would argue very strongly that I am not being "per

Well, I can tell you were NOT to have that discussion: publicly at work. That said, as a white man myself, I would argue very strongly that I am not being "persecuted". Synonyms for this word include: oppress, abuse, victimize, ill-treat, mistreat, maltreat, tyrannize, torment, torture; martyr. I've never felt any of the above. As a white english-speaking immigrant I've never been accosted about my status. I've never been given shit for being an illegal immigrant. I've never been given crap for "stealing American jobs" (and for the record, I am now a US citizen, no arrests, tax-paying, picket fence). But I see it very often to legal non-white immigrants. So you think YOU or your race/gender has been persecuted? You (like me) have no idea what that truly means.

devrandomguy 9y ago
What if my grievance is with the people / culture at work?
- donohoe 9y ago
  Fair question. That is something you'd take to HR. If you think you can't have that conversation with HR (fear of retaliation or mis-understanding etc), then I perhaps a consultation with a attorney that specializes in labor law and the workplace. That is what I'd do if I felt it was a real problem.
  - Kenji 9y ago
    Don't talk to HR. It will escalate the entire situation and you gain nothing. It's like going to the teacher when you don't get along with kids at school - everyone's gonna hate you even more. You need to deescalate the situation and talk to people personally. If that doesn't help, it is time to move on...
flukus 9y ago
> Well, I can tell you were NOT to have that discussion: publicly at work. It's clearly acceptable for other ethnicities and genders, many companies will even setup official programs for those groups, so clearly it's ok to discuss publicly at work. That leaves white and male as the only determining factors that make it unacceptable, which is obviously racist and/or sexist.

devrandomguy 9y ago

What if my grievance is with the people / culture at work?

donohoe 9y ago
Fair question. That is something you'd take to HR. If you think you can't have that conversation with HR (fear of retaliation or mis-understanding etc), then I perhaps a consultation with a attorney that specializes in labor law and the workplace. That is what I'd do if I felt it was a real problem.
- Kenji 9y ago
  Don't talk to HR. It will escalate the entire situation and you gain nothing. It's like going to the teacher when you don't get along with kids at school - everyone's gonna hate you even more. You need to deescalate the situation and talk to people personally. If that doesn't help, it is time to move on...

flukus 9y ago

> Well, I can tell you were NOT to have that discussion: publicly at work. It's clearly acceptable for other ethnicities and genders, many companies will even setup official programs for those groups, so clearly it's ok to discuss publicly at work. That leaves white and male as the only determining factors that make it unacceptable, which is obviously racist and/or sexist.