3 ms·

> We witch hunt people who play at Gor in their spare time. Fuck that noise. Larry Garfield was asked to step down because his Gorean activities leaked into Dr

by chx 9y ago

> We witch hunt people who play at Gor in their spare time. Fuck that noise. Larry Garfield was asked to step down because his Gorean activities leaked into Drupal events and that made others feel unwelcome.

falcolas 9y ago
I'm sorry, but citation needed. His activities were brought to light by others, and he was hounded for that. There was no report of his outside interests impacting anyone.
- chx 9y ago
  Argh! Yes, the communication was incredibly bad because Dries was afraid if he spills the entire thing as is then the woman in question would be blamed for him forcing Garfield to step down. In https://www.drupal.org/association/blog/drupal-association-and-project-lead-statement-regarding-larry-garfield https://www.drupal.org/association/blog/drupal-association-a... finally you can find > The actions that led me to ask Larry to resign involve a woman who attended Drupal community events with Larry, and was "allowed" to contribute by him. Also: check who is posting here. If you think I have any axe to grind relating to Drupal then you missed a few things last year. Like http://drupal.sh/karoly-negyesi-chx-ousted-from-drupal-community http://drupal.sh/karoly-negyesi-chx-ousted-from-drupal-commu... this. If there is anybody left who can take a neutral stand now, it's me. I have neither to gain nor to lose from siding with either party. And, I sided with Larry up until the latest statements clarified things. This doesn't mean others were not doxxing Larry -- but that was not the reason behind asking him to step down.
  - falcolas 9y ago
    So, a consentual relationship gone wrong. I stand by my earlier statement. And forgive me, I don't care who you are; I care that someone was railroaded for a consensual relationship held primarily outside the community. Gor is unpopular; it hasn't gained the acceptance homosexual relationships have, and this outrage tainted everything.
smsm42 9y ago
Anything can "make others feel unwelcome" given enough determination to find so. Did you vote for Trump? You get the boot. Voted for Hillary? You get the boot too, there are Sanders supporters around! Ah, you like Sanders? You communist! Communists certainly can make people feel unwelcome, they did tons of scary stuff over 20th century. What, you don't like communism? Maybe you like capitalism then? You pig! You're making Marxists feel unwelcome! Off with your hea^H^H^Hjob! Maybe you believe in God? Like, a Christian? That certainly will make a lot of folks feel unwelcome. But maybe you're an atheist instead? Ha, did you think you'd get out that easy? Of course you'll make somebody feel unwelcome. [1] OK, this is all political stuff. Let's get so something nobody objects to. How about cheese? Do you like cheese? Do you, you filthy sexist[2]?! If you try hard enough, you can see "feel unwelcome" in literally anything, and simple google search proves it's not even a bit of exaggeration. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/24/us/richard-dawkins-speech-canceled-berkeley.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/24/us/richard-dawkins-speech... [2] https://www.peta.org/living/food/why-cheese-is-the-most-sexist-thing-you-can-eat/ https://www.peta.org/living/food/why-cheese-is-the-most-sexi...

by chx 9y ago

falcolas 9y ago

I'm sorry, but citation needed. His activities were brought to light by others, and he was hounded for that. There was no report of his outside interests impacting anyone.

chx 9y ago
Argh! Yes, the communication was incredibly bad because Dries was afraid if he spills the entire thing as is then the woman in question would be blamed for him forcing Garfield to step down. In https://www.drupal.org/association/blog/drupal-association-and-project-lead-statement-regarding-larry-garfield https://www.drupal.org/association/blog/drupal-association-a... finally you can find > The actions that led me to ask Larry to resign involve a woman who attended Drupal community events with Larry, and was "allowed" to contribute by him. Also: check who is posting here. If you think I have any axe to grind relating to Drupal then you missed a few things last year. Like http://drupal.sh/karoly-negyesi-chx-ousted-from-drupal-community http://drupal.sh/karoly-negyesi-chx-ousted-from-drupal-commu... this. If there is anybody left who can take a neutral stand now, it's me. I have neither to gain nor to lose from siding with either party. And, I sided with Larry up until the latest statements clarified things. This doesn't mean others were not doxxing Larry -- but that was not the reason behind asking him to step down.
- falcolas 9y ago
  So, a consentual relationship gone wrong. I stand by my earlier statement. And forgive me, I don't care who you are; I care that someone was railroaded for a consensual relationship held primarily outside the community. Gor is unpopular; it hasn't gained the acceptance homosexual relationships have, and this outrage tainted everything.

smsm42 9y ago

Anything can "make others feel unwelcome" given enough determination to find so. Did you vote for Trump? You get the boot. Voted for Hillary? You get the boot too, there are Sanders supporters around! Ah, you like Sanders? You communist! Communists certainly can make people feel unwelcome, they did tons of scary stuff over 20th century. What, you don't like communism? Maybe you like capitalism then? You pig! You're making Marxists feel unwelcome! Off with your hea^H^H^Hjob! Maybe you believe in God? Like, a Christian? That certainly will make a lot of folks feel unwelcome. But maybe you're an atheist instead? Ha, did you think you'd get out that easy? Of course you'll make somebody feel unwelcome. [1] OK, this is all political stuff. Let's get so something nobody objects to. How about cheese? Do you like cheese? Do you, you filthy sexist[2]?! If you try hard enough, you can see "feel unwelcome" in literally anything, and simple google search proves it's not even a bit of exaggeration. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/24/us/richard-dawkins-speech-canceled-berkeley.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/24/us/richard-dawkins-speech... [2] https://www.peta.org/living/food/why-cheese-is-the-most-sexist-thing-you-can-eat/ https://www.peta.org/living/food/why-cheese-is-the-most-sexi...