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What is your opinion on companies that interview with requiring rote knowledge on frameworks, or even put it on the job titles (eg. Senior Django developer)? M

by ccdev 9y ago

What is your opinion on companies that interview with requiring rote knowledge on frameworks, or even put it on the job titles (eg. Senior Django developer)? My city is full of these and there is the disconnect online I get from interview prep guides on algorithms, but none of that benefits me in the local companies I apply for. A lot of these companies flat out ignore me, despite that I know OOP development well enough for a couple of years. So much revolves around taking in new tools and frameworks that it's become fashion. That's a big reason why I want to head out of web dev too. Along with that, it seems like most web dev jobs just are hooking up API endpoints for applications that don't get a lot of traffic, so there are no interesting speed/performance problems to solve.

Tade0 9y ago
> What is your opinion on companies that interview with requiring rote knowledge on frameworks, or even put it on the job titles (eg. Senior Django developer)? I know why they're doing this and IMHO it's a dead end. Among companies with tight budgets(I worked for a few of those) there's a notion that you'll get more value out of someone who already knows the required framework so you should focus on that in the recruiting process. That may be true for small, short-lived projects(3 months max.), but what matters the most in the larger, longer ones is something, that can only be expressed as the ability to program. Basically it's a sign that this company is mainly occupied with doing the grunt work for larger companies. A job like that sure, pays your bills, but is also soul-crushingly boring. > Along with that, it seems like most web dev jobs just are hooking up API endpoints for applications that don't get a lot of traffic, so there are no interesting speed/performance problems to solve. Well, this is web development for you. Hell, most of the time this is software engineering for you. But there's a way out of this: Like I said before - a company with its own product that does something fundamental(like e.g. a framework). I spent two years in such a company and I can tell you this - I only dealt with interesting problems there.
- ccdev 9y ago
  Some of the big tech companies create the frameworks that are used by a myriad of other companies. These frameworks, incidentally are open-source and worked on by a lot of people for free. But do they have paid employees working on them as well?

by ccdev 9y ago

Tade0 9y ago

> What is your opinion on companies that interview with requiring rote knowledge on frameworks, or even put it on the job titles (eg. Senior Django developer)? I know why they're doing this and IMHO it's a dead end. Among companies with tight budgets(I worked for a few of those) there's a notion that you'll get more value out of someone who already knows the required framework so you should focus on that in the recruiting process. That may be true for small, short-lived projects(3 months max.), but what matters the most in the larger, longer ones is something, that can only be expressed as the ability to program. Basically it's a sign that this company is mainly occupied with doing the grunt work for larger companies. A job like that sure, pays your bills, but is also soul-crushingly boring. > Along with that, it seems like most web dev jobs just are hooking up API endpoints for applications that don't get a lot of traffic, so there are no interesting speed/performance problems to solve. Well, this is web development for you. Hell, most of the time this is software engineering for you. But there's a way out of this: Like I said before - a company with its own product that does something fundamental(like e.g. a framework). I spent two years in such a company and I can tell you this - I only dealt with interesting problems there.

ccdev 9y ago
Some of the big tech companies create the frameworks that are used by a myriad of other companies. These frameworks, incidentally are open-source and worked on by a lot of people for free. But do they have paid employees working on them as well?