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Many of the world's oldest subways have solved this problem through the use of specialized technology transition teams whose sole job is to develop minimal down
by saosebastiao 9y ago
Many of the world's oldest subways have solved this problem through the use of specialized technology transition teams whose sole job is to develop minimal downtime solutions to upgrading technology. I'm no expert on these technical teams...I merely know of their existence through my own personal obsessive curiosity about infrastructure. But at least in terms of having relatively modern performance and technology, Paris, Madrid, Hamburg, Tokyo, Berlin, Osaka, Barcelona, and even Moscow don't seem to have any problems. Some might run what appears to be really old equipment...but it runs on time without any significant downtime. And with the exception of Tokyo (which has severe overcrowding problems which exceed the natural limits of subways) and London (which has extreme geographic, geological, archeological, electrical, and real estate constraints), they have mostly never let these problems impact the daily service.
New York is probably the most easily upgraded of these legacy subway systems, due to the insistence of the original subway companies on triple tracking. Not only does the triple track allow for express trains, but it also allows for zero downtime maintenance during non-peak hours. The electrical systems aren't a barrier like those in some cities. Even Tokyo and London, which have worse constraints, have fared better. If technology transition teams exist, I haven't heard of them. Upgrade engineering appears to be outsourced. The costs that the MTA quotes for transition seem absurd. Once again, I'm no expert on the engineering involved, but the upgrade costs are approaching new construction costs in other countries.
We know we have a major cost problem in US transit infrastructure construction. But this is not just construction. We also have a problem with maintenance costs, operating costs, capital costs, etc. Everywhere you go in America, we have critical transit infrastructure that is hobbled by costs. Where is the cost management? Why can't we get system-wide cost audits? If annual audits are required of publicly listed companies, why isn't it required of public organizations funded by tax dollars?
I'm sick of the explanation that our problem is funding...its not. Our problem is mismanagement. When you manage your systems well, nobody has any problem sending money your way. The demand curve exists for government funding just as much as it does for markets. When you provide more for a given amount of money, you generally get more money. Give us better management.
- danharaj 9y ago> Give us better management. It's gonna be hard considering how many independent and adversarial managers the NYC subway has.
- jdavis703 9y agoCan New Yorkers make ballot propositions? If so it might make sense to make the MTA responsible directly to voters who live in the counties that are served by MTA. The current situation where it exists halfway between the governor and mayor seems like a governance structure where everyone can just blame the other person, similar to the governance structure dysfunction plaguing Washington, D.C.'s metro.
- solatic 9y agoAnd part of the dysfunction of the DC metro is the lack of dedicated funding. Accountability and power need to stay in the same hands. Being held accountable for a task you are powerless to affect is a powerful recipe for dysfunction. In context, funding is power - the power to make decisions about who gets how much funding and resources to improve the system. If you have funding, but no accountability, then you will simply redirect that funding to projects which are are actually accountable for. Electing an MTA head, without giving that head dedicated funding, will be a political nightmare.
- programLyrique 9y agoThe subway of Paris usually has only two tracks. They have started making it automatic (and so they need to use a modern signalling system) and they seem to be successful at doing it without disrupting traffic too much: http://cometandnova.org/improving-service-through-automation-in-paris/ http://cometandnova.org/improving-service-through-automation... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_M%C3%A9tro_Line_1#Automation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_M%C3%A9tro_Line_1#Automa...