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> I'm not saying you're a bad person, only that the conversation is important to people who don't have the option of ignoring it. No, you can't change the world

> I'm not saying you're a bad person, only that the conversation is important to people who don't have the option of ignoring it. No, you can't change the world but that doesn't mean we should give up and not even talk about the problem. Thank you. I do try the fight, when I see a potential gain. I also see a great deal of flailing around, just because. Maybe they're trying to find their area they can change things. Who knows. I do know I'm a white guy. Tall one.I know Ive never bought into the victimhood culture of SJWs, but yes, bad shit does indeed happen to women and minorities. I've seen it. > Also, having spent a fair amount of time in academia, describing it as liberal utopia is simplistic to the point of being wrong. Right-wing media loves to describe it that way but it's not example hard to find examples of universities fighting against fair wages, unionization, etc. — just watch what happens if someone suggests grad students or adjuncts should have financial security — and there are no shortage of examples of men who might even make a pretense of being feminist while ignoring or even stymieing support for working mothers, fair hiring or promotional practices, etc. Err, not quite. Yes, the University is still subject to capitalist forces. So they're against graduate student rights, uses a great deal of temp and "part timers" to skirt around full time employment benefits. I know there's a few profs in Labor Studies that rattle the Communism banner. But they can, because they are tenured. Me? Since I'm IT/professional, I don't qualify for the union. So, no protections. That means anonymous commentary. Cause just like this (presumed) guy, I nor any of my co-workers can speak out. Look at how upper management is already responding to this? "If he reported to me, I'd fire him myself"... Literally anyone who shares even partial agreement with his email is being blackballed. Some of my friends called it the Liberal Circular Firing Squad. If we all don't get in line, exactly as others have, we're wrong. Blammo. The Republicans don't seem to do that, although they do have their spats.

pcnix 9y ago
>Look at how upper management is already responding to this? "If he reported to me, I'd fire him myself"... Literally anyone who shares even partial agreement with his email is being blackballed. But his reasoning for that is pretty legit though. If someone is willing to call a third of your colleagues incompetent to their face, I'm not sure how they'll be able to work together in that team and hope to actually make things happen. It's hard to expect the women on his team to continue working with him after he calls their competence into question after they've proved themselves by climbing to the same position he holds. I feel like the reasons for the firing were not that he had different views, it was that he did not have the tact to approach this problem properly, and handled it really badly. There are much better ways to have a discussion around this than this manifesto, and those are discussions worth having. But not this one, this is just inciting a flame war.

pcnix 9y ago

>Look at how upper management is already responding to this? "If he reported to me, I'd fire him myself"... Literally anyone who shares even partial agreement with his email is being blackballed. But his reasoning for that is pretty legit though. If someone is willing to call a third of your colleagues incompetent to their face, I'm not sure how they'll be able to work together in that team and hope to actually make things happen. It's hard to expect the women on his team to continue working with him after he calls their competence into question after they've proved themselves by climbing to the same position he holds. I feel like the reasons for the firing were not that he had different views, it was that he did not have the tact to approach this problem properly, and handled it really badly. There are much better ways to have a discussion around this than this manifesto, and those are discussions worth having. But not this one, this is just inciting a flame war.