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> but the odds are on the German and Japanese incumbents in the long run you kidding right? which good ev does any german car manufacturer has? plugin-hybrid d
by merb 9y ago
> but the odds are on the German and Japanese incumbents in the long run
you kidding right?
which good ev does any german car manufacturer has?
plugin-hybrid does not count. besides that no german ev car can devlier the same range like the model 3 for the same price.
well heck, the mini e starts at 35000 euro and only has a range of ~160-200km, audi e-tron still can't deliver more than 200-250km besides that they announced they can do more.
bmw i8 is a plugin-hybrid, bmw i3 has a range 290km official (probably less) and starts at 35000 euro (btw. it's a really small city car), mercedes does not have any ev at all (at the moment).
vw said they have a car that delivers more than tesla, but i think a lot of this is just blabla.
yes the japanese and prolly the chinese will drive the market. heck even the bolt ev looks more promising and deliverable than anything (we, i am german and it is sad) the germans announced.
oh the only thing that german manufacturer said that they start producing new ev's for the chinese, cause of their emission strategy.
- arghIdontwantto 9y agoHow much is the Model 3 in europe? Not trying to start a pissing match, but at least in my country, 30-40% of the car price is taxes that don't exist in the US. If you compare prices, make sure the Model 3 + all taxes are factored in.
- merb 9y agoon the page it says 40.000€ (smallest model), but in germany you get 4k (probably 3k if it is shipping in 2018) off. btw. there is still an all ev that is produced by a "german" automaker, with a good range, it's the opel amera-e (well not that german, more like gm and soon peugot), price is the same as tesla model 3, but less max speed and torx, but 100km more range (at least what they said), coming 2017q4.