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> I love the non connection and unpreciousness of my possessions - how profoundly and easily replaceable they are and how detached I am from them. Being someon

> I love the non connection and unpreciousness of my possessions - how profoundly and easily replaceable they are and how detached I am from them. Being someone who is lower on the income scale, my stuff is by no means replaceable. At least not easily. To be blunt, it's easy to say that none of your possessions mean anything when they actually don't; when that shitty old car means about half a year of income for you, it means a lot, even if not sentimentally. Frankly all that sounds to me like just a reverse-posturing for the wealthy; "I have so much and look how I live, I don't need things." Yeah that's very easy to say when you could have literally any and all the things you ever wanted, should you change your mind. I would query back how many people are living check-to-check to make that fortune possible? I don't mean this as an attack, but in my experience, pretty much everyone who has a lot of money in the bank also has a trail of people behind them with fresh footprints on their heads.

ryandrake 9y ago
"Hey, money isn't everything" - Someone with a comfortable amount of money
kristopolous 9y ago
Sure - this is about a definition of wealth. You have two choices: you can buy at your level of income and need to take care of what you buy, or you can buy below your income level and free yourself from those concerns and burdens. I understand that at a certain income level, you are at or near the bottom rung for certain things. This is always the case. If you have $4,000 you can buy a functional, durable, used car and take care of it. If you have $400,000 you can buy the same car and not worry about it if it breaks down. But now you can buy a small, well-built, home and take care of it. If you have $4,000,000 you can buy the same home, hope for the best, but not be bothered if things happen. But now you can invest in a small, well-built company and take care of it. And so on and so forth... every level has a new bottom rung. Even Bill Gates has a small, well-built, international organization (like a NATO or WHO). At some point, however, you have the option to free yourself from bottom-rung consumption if you choose to do so.
- FussyZeus 9y ago
  Not so awfully long ago when I worked my entry level job, I made roughly $800 biweekly. Do you know what that's like? And that's a pretty comfortable wage for my area, compared to others, but $4,000, are you joking? Might as well be $400,000 or $4,000,000 for as attainable as $4,000 was. Yeah sure, I could save that by spending literally nothing outside essentials for three years, but who can live like that without losing their minds? I don't want to be rich. Being rich blows by many accounts. I want enough money in the bank where a bang in my car isn't enough to send me to the poorhouse and where a visit to the ER isn't going to render me homeless. Wanting financial security: the thing you have and are describing; is perfectly natural, except that it's nearly unattainable by I think the vast majority of the population. And don't sit there and tell me that it's all our fault for needing to finance shit when we barely make enough to live already.

ryandrake 9y ago

"Hey, money isn't everything" - Someone with a comfortable amount of money

kristopolous 9y ago

Sure - this is about a definition of wealth. You have two choices: you can buy at your level of income and need to take care of what you buy, or you can buy below your income level and free yourself from those concerns and burdens. I understand that at a certain income level, you are at or near the bottom rung for certain things. This is always the case. If you have $4,000 you can buy a functional, durable, used car and take care of it. If you have $400,000 you can buy the same car and not worry about it if it breaks down. But now you can buy a small, well-built, home and take care of it. If you have $4,000,000 you can buy the same home, hope for the best, but not be bothered if things happen. But now you can invest in a small, well-built company and take care of it. And so on and so forth... every level has a new bottom rung. Even Bill Gates has a small, well-built, international organization (like a NATO or WHO). At some point, however, you have the option to free yourself from bottom-rung consumption if you choose to do so.

FussyZeus 9y ago
Not so awfully long ago when I worked my entry level job, I made roughly $800 biweekly. Do you know what that's like? And that's a pretty comfortable wage for my area, compared to others, but $4,000, are you joking? Might as well be $400,000 or $4,000,000 for as attainable as $4,000 was. Yeah sure, I could save that by spending literally nothing outside essentials for three years, but who can live like that without losing their minds? I don't want to be rich. Being rich blows by many accounts. I want enough money in the bank where a bang in my car isn't enough to send me to the poorhouse and where a visit to the ER isn't going to render me homeless. Wanting financial security: the thing you have and are describing; is perfectly natural, except that it's nearly unattainable by I think the vast majority of the population. And don't sit there and tell me that it's all our fault for needing to finance shit when we barely make enough to live already.