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Why do people jump to 50/50? Because that seems to be the goal of people pushing diversity: desirable fields like software should reflect the population at larg
by MichaelGG 9y ago
Why do people jump to 50/50? Because that seems to be the goal of people pushing diversity: desirable fields like software should reflect the population at large [1]. I think the assumption that 50/50 is desirable is wrong, too. So far I haven't heard of any compelling reason that genders are equal in all jobs - only the opposite (in both directions - some jobs have way more women). In fact, how do these folks even know 50/50 is fair to women? What if it turns out that women are actually better at software engineering, and the ratio should be 2:1 in favour of women? How are they determining these numbers? Or are they just making them up?
He's also challenging the point that identity=diversity. Getting a man and a woman that were born in the same area, had similar wealth growing up, went to the same schools, have same "political" views, etc. is not nearly as diverse as getting two men from different parts of the country with different political views, differ in wealth, etc.
None of this should detract from trying to eliminate bias. Blind reviewing sounds great, for instance - perhaps they should do that for the first pass where it's feasible to hide the candidate's details. Or provide transcripts of phone interviews then have people rate them and see how biased things are. There's ways to do research on this issue, but it seems that even suggesting there might be differences is a way to provoke "outrage".
1: I see less outrage about low female representation in mining and hunting, for instance, or people demanding dentists stop employing so many females as dental assistants.
- muglug 9y agoThe point about ratios is that tech is where a lot of the money, and thus a lot of the power, is. If there's a perception that it's more difficult to access that power because of your presented gender, then there will be outrage.
- weberc2 9y agoInterestingly, there is also no outrage that men die on the job twelve times more frequently than women, nor that they're underrepresented in higher education. Note that men are overwhelmingly more likely to be homeless, commit suicide, be victims of almost every kind of violence (women are slightly more likely to be victims of sexism violence, but men also underreport, so who knows?), die a decade younger, receive far fewer social services, etc. But hey, as long as tech companies are 50/50, the gender problems are solved.
- jazoom 9y agoAll good points. Too bad it's not trendy to fight for those things at the moment. Sorry.