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I believe he's talking about punishing the overt act of publishing this large manifesto and the negative consequences that flow from it. Not the thinking or dis
by irl_zebra 9y ago
I believe he's talking about punishing the overt act of publishing this large manifesto and the negative consequences that flow from it. Not the thinking or discussing his views.
- muninn_ 9y agoShouldn't even be talking about it. It's simply not an option. Violence is not acceptable. Period. Discussing it as a repercussion for a possibly misguided manifesto is not an option. It's disgusting.
- mcphage 9y agoMeh, some people respond to insults with violence. It's not great, but the idea that attacking people verbally is somehow "better" than attacking them physically is wrong.
- scarmig 9y agoAre you seriously stating that insulting/offending people is equal in moral gravity to punching them? I read the manifesto and thought it was stupid in most of its claims. But it's not hard to feel like thoughtcrime has become a real thing nowadays.
- mcphage 9y ago> Are you seriously stating that insulting/offending people is equal in moral gravity to punching them? Am I seriously stating that abusing people verbally and emotionally is equal in moral gravity to abusing them verbally? Yes.
- fucktech 9y agoEven worse sometimes. But don't tell these privileged little cunts who haven't had anything bad happen to them ever.
- fucktech 9y agoDang loves to cultivate the privileged cunt mentality here if you haven't noticed
- blub 9y agoWriting some manifesto can be at most offensive, but is nowhere near "abuse". And it's under no circumstance as grave as physical assault. Try your tough guy act in real life and you'll have a very serious discussion with the police.
- fucktech 9y agoPeople are pussies these days
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- masterleep 9y agoOne is a crime and the other isn't. That's for a good reason.
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- carsongross 9y agoThat's insane. All of human moral progress can be briefly summarized as "talking, not hitting."
- mcphage 9y agoNo. All of human moral progress can be briefly summarized as "not hurting other people". Solving disagreements through discussion is better than solving them through violence, but you don't solve disagreements via discussion if you attack them verbally.
- thehardsphere 9y agoRight, and because it's hard to have discussions that may not be easy to resolve, it far easier to re-label those disagreements as "attack them verbally." Hence, the new thoughtcrime.
- mcphage 9y agoSo tell me why you labeled "people disagree with me" as "thoughtcrime"
- carsongross 9y agoComment 1: > It's not great, but the idea that attacking people verbally is somehow "better" than attacking them physically is wrong. Comment 2: > Solving disagreements through discussion is better than solving them through violence lol, always amusing when I assume both intelligence and good faith when discussing things on the internet. You think I'd learn.
- mcphage 9y agoWait, are you actually equating discussions, with verbally attacking someone? And then you have the gall to accuse me of acting in bad faith?
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- MartinCron 9y agoWho would think that publishing a manifesto might have consequences?
- Goladus 9y agoCalling this a "manifesto" is mostly laziness. It is not actually a manifesto. It is a call to dialog. It is a memo that identifies and describes a perceived problem and thoughtfully follows through with some reasonable suggestions for what could be done about it. While one can tolerate people referring to it as a manifesto for the sake of clarity, since his name is not common knowledge and there is no other catchy title associated with it, it's not reasonable to use that language to imply that what was written is actually a manifesto by the dictionary definition of the word. A manifesto is a published verbal declaration of the intentions, motives, or views of the issuer, be it an individual, group, political party or government. That is quite clearly not what the author's piece actually is.
- MartinCron 9y agoAnd here I was thinking that I was being all moderate by not calling it a "screed" or a "rant".
- Goladus 9y agoNot like you gave me much to work with. It was a single sentence of bland sarcasm.
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