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First of all, let me lead with: I'm a neoliberal democrat type person, I support diversity initiatives, reaching out to and supporting under represented communi

by tmh79 9y ago

First of all, let me lead with: I'm a neoliberal democrat type person, I support diversity initiatives, reaching out to and supporting under represented communities, making changing to work culture to help people who haven't succeeded historically (IE mothers who leave to take care of their kids) etc. I disagree with most of the points in the guys doc. > Why haven't I read a 10 page pro-diversity creed circulating at google? The corporate culture in SV is pretty far to the left (all things being considered), you don't see things like a 10 page pro-diversity creed circulating internally because for the most part, those type of documents are official company policy. IMO, this is a good thing. I think open discussion of ideas like the one in this document would be beneficial because they are easy to refute and all people involved can take it as a learning or educating experience. The guys conclusions aren't "morally bad", but they are "demonstrably wrong" and its easy to see why if honest discussion was permitted. The problem is, open discussion is not permitted because the culture of the left seems to confuse "demonstrably wrong" with "morally bad" and thus makes having bad ideas a sin, instead of say, an opportunity that one can be educated on an enlightened.

didibus 9y ago
How many people in SV join Google and spend time thinking about why those policies are in place, what underlying principle and reasoning has warranted them? How many explanation is there for why the current Google status quo leans left or appears to do so? Is that open for discussion too? I don't think so. Now, I also find it ironic that status quo is considered progressive. The underlying principle of progressivism is change, continuous improvement through conscious change, measured by the impact on the lowest common denominator and the sum of all value. That is, you want to make the pie bigger and the smallest piece of pie bigger too. I'm open for conversation, but you need to hear all data points to make an informed decision, one way discourse is possibly worse then no discourse.
CalChris 9y ago
> The corporate culture in SV is pretty far to the left (all things being considered) I'd disagree there. To attach a couple of names to it, I wouldn't say the corporate culture here is Bernie. I'd say it's Hillary. [1] And if you think Hillary is pretty far to the left then I have an ICO I just gotta tell you about. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2016/06/07/silicon-valley-shows-its-primary-colors/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/06/07/silicon-valley-shows-its-p...

by tmh79 9y ago

didibus 9y ago

How many people in SV join Google and spend time thinking about why those policies are in place, what underlying principle and reasoning has warranted them? How many explanation is there for why the current Google status quo leans left or appears to do so? Is that open for discussion too? I don't think so. Now, I also find it ironic that status quo is considered progressive. The underlying principle of progressivism is change, continuous improvement through conscious change, measured by the impact on the lowest common denominator and the sum of all value. That is, you want to make the pie bigger and the smallest piece of pie bigger too. I'm open for conversation, but you need to hear all data points to make an informed decision, one way discourse is possibly worse then no discourse.

CalChris 9y ago

> The corporate culture in SV is pretty far to the left (all things being considered) I'd disagree there. To attach a couple of names to it, I wouldn't say the corporate culture here is Bernie. I'd say it's Hillary. [1] And if you think Hillary is pretty far to the left then I have an ICO I just gotta tell you about. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2016/06/07/silicon-valley-shows-its-primary-colors/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/06/07/silicon-valley-shows-its-p...