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Do you really need scientific sources to notice the biological differences between two different sexes of a species?

by onli 9y ago

remarkEon 9y ago
I think the Left now does. I'm not trying to troll, but this new trend of pretending there isn't a difference has started to really bother me. Jordan Peterson attributes it to the influx of Postmodernism to Leftist ideologies. I don't know if I totally agree with him there but it's at least a starting point.
mcguire 9y ago
Are you asserting that height and muscle mass are significant determiners of success in technological careers? We are discussing mental and psychological variables about which essentially all of the opinions presented in the history of humanity have been unadulterated crap. So, yes, I want scientific sources.
- onli 9y ago
  > Are you asserting that height and muscle mass are significant determiners of success in technological careers? No. Well, actually, both might have some influence in social settings, but significant for success I doubt. > We are discussing mental and psychological variables ... So, yes, I want scientific sources There are pretty evident differences in that area you can see without any science. Gender ideologists try to explain them away, but it is not like they have any scientific basis for that. Given that the differences are obvious, a field given a convoluted theory would have to prove their theory, or rather to defend against the existing disprovals. Gender is completely incapable of doing that. And there are quite some sources linked in this comment thread. You know that Butler was only writing some thoughts of how she thinks it could be, right? Gender theory is not science by any definition. There can't be a scientific discussion about it. > all of the opinions presented in the history of humanity have been unadulterated crap There is a lot of absurd stuff floating around in that space, true. But to think that there is no difference at all because of that is just crazy. And actually, the original story is only discussing mental and psychological differences as an aside. The google memo is about inegality and discrimination, now coming from a fascist ideology under disguise and spreading through societies. It is not about biological differences, it is not even really about any differences. It's class warfare with new means.
  - paulcole 9y ago
    > There are pretty evident differences in that area you can see without any science. Fortunate that these unnamed differences are so obvious as to not require scientific confirmation.
    - onli 9y ago
      > And there are quite some sources linked in this comment thread.

Do you really need scientific sources to notice the biological differences between two different sexes of a species?

by onli 9y ago

Do you really need scientific sources to notice the biological differences between two different sexes of a species?

I think the Left now does. I'm not trying to troll, but this new trend of pretending there isn't a difference has started to really bother me. Jordan Peterson attributes it to the influx of Postmodernism to Leftist ideologies. I don't know if I totally agree with him there but it's at least a starting point.

mcguire 9y ago

Are you asserting that height and muscle mass are significant determiners of success in technological careers? We are discussing mental and psychological variables about which essentially all of the opinions presented in the history of humanity have been unadulterated crap. So, yes, I want scientific sources.

onli 9y ago
> Are you asserting that height and muscle mass are significant determiners of success in technological careers? No. Well, actually, both might have some influence in social settings, but significant for success I doubt. > We are discussing mental and psychological variables ... So, yes, I want scientific sources There are pretty evident differences in that area you can see without any science. Gender ideologists try to explain them away, but it is not like they have any scientific basis for that. Given that the differences are obvious, a field given a convoluted theory would have to prove their theory, or rather to defend against the existing disprovals. Gender is completely incapable of doing that. And there are quite some sources linked in this comment thread. You know that Butler was only writing some thoughts of how she thinks it could be, right? Gender theory is not science by any definition. There can't be a scientific discussion about it. > all of the opinions presented in the history of humanity have been unadulterated crap There is a lot of absurd stuff floating around in that space, true. But to think that there is no difference at all because of that is just crazy. And actually, the original story is only discussing mental and psychological differences as an aside. The google memo is about inegality and discrimination, now coming from a fascist ideology under disguise and spreading through societies. It is not about biological differences, it is not even really about any differences. It's class warfare with new means.
- paulcole 9y ago
  > There are pretty evident differences in that area you can see without any science. Fortunate that these unnamed differences are so obvious as to not require scientific confirmation.
  - onli 9y ago
    > And there are quite some sources linked in this comment thread.