> lifesavers check rips roughly about once every 15 seconds or so > (and no, I'm not exagerating - they know where the rips are, and they know that these are a

> lifesavers check rips roughly about once every 15 seconds or so > (and no, I'm not exagerating - they know where the rips are, and they know that these are a big source of danger) Where I was at, they didn't even see us drowning for approximately 5 minutes. Where one of our group members had to go tell the lifeguard that people were drowning for them to notice. It was 5:30 in the evening, so maybe that was part of the problem, I'm not sure.