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I hate to be so cynical, but for how often the TK elevator in our building is out of service (these things have been around for 100 years and still break down m

I hate to be so cynical, but for how often the TK elevator in our building is out of service (these things have been around for 100 years and still break down more than a Fiat), I don't have the confidence necessary to step foot in this thing.

dom0 9y ago
Time out of service has much more to do with who services them.
Rjevski 9y ago
Note that a TK elevator doesn't mean it's actually still maintained by TK. For example in my previous building there was an Otis elevator but at some point the maintenance stickers on it became TK's, probably because they offered a cheaper maintenance contract. TLDR: the manufacturer can't do much about the owner not maintaining their product properly.
stinos 9y ago
Came to post a similar comment. Of course it's anecdotal, but in our old building we had a +20 years old Schindler's lift (yes that sounds very close to Schindler's List, the joke is never far away) and in the 5 years I was there I never saw them failing. In a new building no single month passes by without one of the TK elevators needing servicing, at worst multiple times a week. And if they're in service there are still always chances they forget the floor entered or one of the special programs for limited access areas stops working. Definitely software problems but might also be hardware related sometimes. Like the doors sliding open a couple of mm then closing again, until the technician shows up once again. I know that doesn't mean all their products are like that and maybe human error is at fault here, but it ceryainly does not leave the same good impression as the Schindler's ones.
- icebraining 9y ago
  My previous workplace had a couple of Schindlers, which failed multiple times per year.
Kluny 9y ago
Sometimes you get cheap landlords who try to avoid paying for routine maintenance, so you get emergency shutdowns instead.
LoSboccacc 9y ago
Weird you say that. Fiat engines are so reliable most other constructors use a FIRE or a common rail derivative in their compact segment. Here there are uncountable 90s and 00s punto panda and the likes, still marching after few couple hundred thousand kilometers. Drove one myself to 250000, with minimal issues and regular maintenance. Now driving a "famously unreliable" Alfa and just passed 100kkm with zero issues yet. Never have been left on the road by them, and the alfa drove me all the way from milano to dublin and back, after multiple track days.

dom0 9y ago

Time out of service has much more to do with who services them.

Rjevski 9y ago

Note that a TK elevator doesn't mean it's actually still maintained by TK. For example in my previous building there was an Otis elevator but at some point the maintenance stickers on it became TK's, probably because they offered a cheaper maintenance contract. TLDR: the manufacturer can't do much about the owner not maintaining their product properly.

stinos 9y ago

Came to post a similar comment. Of course it's anecdotal, but in our old building we had a +20 years old Schindler's lift (yes that sounds very close to Schindler's List, the joke is never far away) and in the 5 years I was there I never saw them failing. In a new building no single month passes by without one of the TK elevators needing servicing, at worst multiple times a week. And if they're in service there are still always chances they forget the floor entered or one of the special programs for limited access areas stops working. Definitely software problems but might also be hardware related sometimes. Like the doors sliding open a couple of mm then closing again, until the technician shows up once again. I know that doesn't mean all their products are like that and maybe human error is at fault here, but it ceryainly does not leave the same good impression as the Schindler's ones.

icebraining 9y ago
My previous workplace had a couple of Schindlers, which failed multiple times per year.

Kluny 9y ago

Sometimes you get cheap landlords who try to avoid paying for routine maintenance, so you get emergency shutdowns instead.

LoSboccacc 9y ago

Weird you say that. Fiat engines are so reliable most other constructors use a FIRE or a common rail derivative in their compact segment. Here there are uncountable 90s and 00s punto panda and the likes, still marching after few couple hundred thousand kilometers. Drove one myself to 250000, with minimal issues and regular maintenance. Now driving a "famously unreliable" Alfa and just passed 100kkm with zero issues yet. Never have been left on the road by them, and the alfa drove me all the way from milano to dublin and back, after multiple track days.