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Trolling is lying. Either you believe terrible things, or you lie about believing them to make people angry. Normal lying is usually intended for personal gain,

Trolling is lying. Either you believe terrible things, or you lie about believing them to make people angry. Normal lying is usually intended for personal gain, trolling is just lies intended to hurt other people.

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MSM 9y ago
>Trolling is lying Not at all, I think one of the most famous "troll" things he did was buy the master Wu-Tang album and threaten to destroy it so no one could ever hear the album. There's no lying or anything meant to "hurt" anyone there, but you can imagine that it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
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- burkaman 9y ago
  Threatening to destroy it so nobody else can hear it is explicitly intended to hurt people who want to hear the album. If you don't mean to hurt anyone, by definition it isn't trolling. Maybe I'm stretching the meaning of lying, but I think it's dishonest to represent yourself as a patron of the arts, as the album was produced as a piece of art, when you're really bidding on it with the sole purpose of depriving others. If that's not the reason he bought it, then he wasn't trolling.
  - hxegon 9y ago
    except, no one was actually hurt. He didn't destroy the album (as far as I know). You could make an argument that it's a dick move, and I might agree, but it's his property to do with as he wishes.
  - trentmb 9y ago
    Then go after Wu-Tang. They engendered this 'hurt'.
discombobulate 9y ago
Maybe that's true. I unfollowed him on Twitter b/c of the trolling.
njharman 9y ago
> make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them. That is the correct definition of trolling, yours is wrong. It comes from the method of fishing, as in baiting people. It's about getting reaction usually by making people angry or upset. It's purpose is not to hurt other people. Although many people get butthurt over being trolled. BThat is on them. And kind of the point of trolling, "don't waste your time getting upset over shit people, esp people you don't know, do or say. Don't give them power over you". Trolling wouldn't work, if people didn't freak out over it.

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MSM 9y ago

>Trolling is lying Not at all, I think one of the most famous "troll" things he did was buy the master Wu-Tang album and threaten to destroy it so no one could ever hear the album. There's no lying or anything meant to "hurt" anyone there, but you can imagine that it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

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burkaman 9y ago
Threatening to destroy it so nobody else can hear it is explicitly intended to hurt people who want to hear the album. If you don't mean to hurt anyone, by definition it isn't trolling. Maybe I'm stretching the meaning of lying, but I think it's dishonest to represent yourself as a patron of the arts, as the album was produced as a piece of art, when you're really bidding on it with the sole purpose of depriving others. If that's not the reason he bought it, then he wasn't trolling.
- hxegon 9y ago
  except, no one was actually hurt. He didn't destroy the album (as far as I know). You could make an argument that it's a dick move, and I might agree, but it's his property to do with as he wishes.
- trentmb 9y ago
  Then go after Wu-Tang. They engendered this 'hurt'.

discombobulate 9y ago

Maybe that's true. I unfollowed him on Twitter b/c of the trolling.

njharman 9y ago

> make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them. That is the correct definition of trolling, yours is wrong. It comes from the method of fishing, as in baiting people. It's about getting reaction usually by making people angry or upset. It's purpose is not to hurt other people. Although many people get butthurt over being trolled. BThat is on them. And kind of the point of trolling, "don't waste your time getting upset over shit people, esp people you don't know, do or say. Don't give them power over you". Trolling wouldn't work, if people didn't freak out over it.