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Sad to see it confirmed that it's not worth the risk going to America to visit DEFCON. I hope they'll host it in Europe someday.. To see no statement by DEFCON
by flipp3r 9y ago
Sad to see it confirmed that it's not worth the risk going to America to visit DEFCON. I hope they'll host it in Europe someday.. To see no statement by DEFCON on this whole thing is almost equally sad.
- sschueller 9y agoThere already is a security conference in Europe just as large run by the chaos computer club in Germany.
- watty 9y agoCan you elaborate? Have you been creating malware (banking trojans) and selling it online?
- flipp3r 9y agoNo I haven't created or sold malware. But i have this; A middle-eastern last name, I use Tor, I use Linux, and I use Telegram, I am active in the field of IT and especially enjoy IT security. I know that I can be held indefinitely if I visit the USA. In the USA you're guilty until proven innocent, unlike the rest of the western world. Simply going to the USA is more risk than it is for practically every other country. Well, for me, and a lot of people like me. That's what my comment was about. EDIT: How is it relevant to the article? Well, he is an IT security specialist who wanted to visit DEFCON. Yes, I understand what he did was wrong, it was his own risk.
- watty 9y agoOk... but what does that have to do with this article or these comments? In this case a banking trojan creator was arrested. He wasn't middle eastern, he wasn't arrested for using Tor, Linux, or Telegram.
- eridius 9y agoYou're commenting on an article about how the FBI arrested someone for creating malware. If you haven't been creating malware, then I don't see how this article has anything to do with the issues you face as someone with a middle-eastern last who uses privacy tools like Tor. Hutchins wasn't targeted because of CBP's stance on things it associates with terrorism. He was targeted because the FBI believes he authored malware.
- mintplant 9y agoBelieve it or not, it's possible to be suspected or even accused of something you didn't actually do, whether through a misunderstanding or otherwise. And factors such as ethnicity and personal associations can influence the chance of this occurring.
- eridius 9y agoHutchens is a British man, not someone of an ethnicity that makes people wary. The arrest of Hutchens shouldn't have any relevance whatsoever to worries about being flagged for ethnicity.
- swinglock 9y agoWas Marcus Hutchins arrested for selling malware online?
- watty 9y agoYes. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3912524-Kronos-Indictment-R.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3912524-Kronos-Indic...
- manarth 9y agoThe indictment doesn't say that Hutchins sold Kronos. It claims that Hutchins was part of a conspiracy to sell Kronos, and that defendant [redacted] sold Kronos, but doesn't state that Hutchins advertised or sold Kronos. The only solid claim against Hutchins is that he created Kronos, which doesn't stack up with his tweet asking for a sample of Kronos. The following claim is that Hutchins and [redacted] updated Kronos. It's not exactly a smoking gun.
- pvaldes 9y agoPerhaps, but the possibility of a revenge from a few powerful people annoyed by him shouldn't be discarded at this moment. The underlying message for the community is "if you stand out in the way and go noticed, your identity will be disclosed and then you got owned". Keeping your real identity safe and your activity low-key on the other hand, will increase the probabilities to pass unnoticed and preserve your actual life and freedom. Is the wrong message. Nobody will dare to try to be a hero the next time.
- 6footgeek 9y ago*potentially.