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I think it's common in communist leaning circles in general. I've talked with a few of the fine folks of anti-fa on twitter, who express similar views. I think

I think it's common in communist leaning circles in general. I've talked with a few of the fine folks of anti-fa on twitter, who express similar views. I think it makes sense in the context of the worldview. After all, why let one man's words lead to the mental detriment of thousands?

opportune 9y ago
Does it really make sense in context of the worldview, or is it an ex-post facto rationalization they're making solely because of all the communist/socialist dictatorships in the past (tankies would be the ones doing this)? I have socialist beliefs but I hate the blatant authoritarianism that a lot of people on the left espouse. I hate to make a slippery slope argument, but limitations on free speech scare me simply because what is "unacceptable" will (in my mind) assuredly grow larger and larger until perfectly reasonable beliefs are persecuted. If your society can't exist with free speech, it probably shouldn't exist at all. Because at that point, you've become the oppressor. I know a lot of the hate towards "liberals" among those on the left is due to their opinions on capitalism and such, but given the original meaning of the term liberal (one who believes in liberalism, generally personal liberty) I fail to see why anyone would actually oppose that.
- abiox 9y ago
  > Does it really make sense in context of the worldview it seems there is a strong postmodernist bent in the "anti-fa" crowd. words are now violence, and sometimes the use of "violence" is justified to defend against "violence" (ie self-defense and defense of others). nevermind that this equivocation of "violence" means that anti-fa is assaulting, hospitalizing, intimidating and harassing people, and destroying property and businesses. it's all a righteous and necessary defense against "violence". even though the "violence" they "defend" against is... words.
  - darpa_escapee 9y ago
    Who is anti-fa?

opportune 9y ago

Does it really make sense in context of the worldview, or is it an ex-post facto rationalization they're making solely because of all the communist/socialist dictatorships in the past (tankies would be the ones doing this)? I have socialist beliefs but I hate the blatant authoritarianism that a lot of people on the left espouse. I hate to make a slippery slope argument, but limitations on free speech scare me simply because what is "unacceptable" will (in my mind) assuredly grow larger and larger until perfectly reasonable beliefs are persecuted. If your society can't exist with free speech, it probably shouldn't exist at all. Because at that point, you've become the oppressor. I know a lot of the hate towards "liberals" among those on the left is due to their opinions on capitalism and such, but given the original meaning of the term liberal (one who believes in liberalism, generally personal liberty) I fail to see why anyone would actually oppose that.

abiox 9y ago
> Does it really make sense in context of the worldview it seems there is a strong postmodernist bent in the "anti-fa" crowd. words are now violence, and sometimes the use of "violence" is justified to defend against "violence" (ie self-defense and defense of others). nevermind that this equivocation of "violence" means that anti-fa is assaulting, hospitalizing, intimidating and harassing people, and destroying property and businesses. it's all a righteous and necessary defense against "violence". even though the "violence" they "defend" against is... words.
- darpa_escapee 9y ago
  Who is anti-fa?