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Ask HN: Best Back end web-frameworks for startups in 2017?

devrandomguy 9y ago
I'm partial to Compojure API (https://github.com/metosin/compojure-api https://github.com/metosin/compojure-api). The thing I like about it, is at the point where I've just scaffolded a barely functional prototype, I also have a spec and interactive documentation. That documentation serves as the service's first UI. UX peeps think I am sadistic, but I like having the controls embedded in the manual. It is also very beautiful. If you look at the examples, there are few forms (keywords, in other languages) that are not related to the domain of an HTTP API. The code is dense, but rich in relevant information. If you want to explore the underlying architecture, look up the Ring project. It contains the lower level server primitives that several web frameworks are built on top of.
trcollinson 9y ago
Ruby on Rails! It's a beautiful framework. It's nice to work with and batteries are included. It is well tested and battle hardened in many production environments. Give it a shot!
rtcoms 9y ago
I'll vote for Ruby on Rails unless my app has heavy frontend requirements (Single page apps, complex ui interactions).
- 2_listerine_pls 9y ago
  what's best for complex UI interactions?
richardknop 9y ago
It's still Django obviously. You can never go wrong with Django. Mature and battle tested. I think it will be easier to hire for Django as there are more Python devs and they can learn Django quickly if they don't know it already. Second choice would be RoR if you want to be fancy but might be little it harder to hire for.
assafmo 9y ago
The ones you feel the most comfortable with.
- 2_listerine_pls 9y ago
  You need to take into account new hires, development speed, community, maintainability, etc...
tomascot 9y ago
I'm really productive with Symfony, so Symfony it is.
jklein11 9y ago
Intersystems Cache ObjectScript and Ensemble! The language is battle tested (~60 years old) and no need to worry about setting up database connections because the language has a persistence built in! The Ensemble integration engine has adapters for almost any web protocol you can imagine and make it a breeze to create microservices.
e59d134d 9y ago
Laravel Tons of PHP programmers and PHP is a lot more mature language now.
- jwdunne 9y ago
  Recently used Lumen in a project. Very nice microframework based on laravel packages and a faster router. With PHP7, I recommend reading the RFCs too. Some nice stuff on the way.

I'm partial to Compojure API (https://github.com/metosin/compojure-api https://github.com/metosin/compojure-api). The thing I like about it, is at the point where I've just scaffolded a barely functional prototype, I also have a spec and interactive documentation. That documentation serves as the service's first UI. UX peeps think I am sadistic, but I like having the controls embedded in the manual. It is also very beautiful. If you look at the examples, there are few forms (keywords, in other languages) that are not related to the domain of an HTTP API. The code is dense, but rich in relevant information. If you want to explore the underlying architecture, look up the Ring project. It contains the lower level server primitives that several web frameworks are built on top of.

trcollinson 9y ago

Ruby on Rails! It's a beautiful framework. It's nice to work with and batteries are included. It is well tested and battle hardened in many production environments. Give it a shot!

rtcoms 9y ago

I'll vote for Ruby on Rails unless my app has heavy frontend requirements (Single page apps, complex ui interactions).

2_listerine_pls 9y ago
what's best for complex UI interactions?

richardknop 9y ago

It's still Django obviously. You can never go wrong with Django. Mature and battle tested. I think it will be easier to hire for Django as there are more Python devs and they can learn Django quickly if they don't know it already. Second choice would be RoR if you want to be fancy but might be little it harder to hire for.

assafmo 9y ago

The ones you feel the most comfortable with.

2_listerine_pls 9y ago
You need to take into account new hires, development speed, community, maintainability, etc...

tomascot 9y ago

I'm really productive with Symfony, so Symfony it is.

jklein11 9y ago

Intersystems Cache ObjectScript and Ensemble! The language is battle tested (~60 years old) and no need to worry about setting up database connections because the language has a persistence built in! The Ensemble integration engine has adapters for almost any web protocol you can imagine and make it a breeze to create microservices.

e59d134d 9y ago

Laravel Tons of PHP programmers and PHP is a lot more mature language now.

jwdunne 9y ago
Recently used Lumen in a project. Very nice microframework based on laravel packages and a faster router. With PHP7, I recommend reading the RFCs too. Some nice stuff on the way.