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This is not true at all. There is no Due Process when you're under the purview of USCIS/INS, CBP and ICE. This why visa holders in good standing can get turned-

This is not true at all. There is no Due Process when you're under the purview of USCIS/INS, CBP and ICE. This why visa holders in good standing can get turned-away at the border or destination airport and sent back immediately, even if they have done nothing wrong or violated the terms of their visa - just on the suspicion or hunch of the immigration officer - and they can extend their reach even after you pass through immigration. There's a reason they're called "constitution-free zones": https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights-governments-100-mile-border-zone-map https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights-governments-100-mile-b...

jacquesm 9y ago
Even Americans aren't safe: http://www.npr.org/2017/08/01/540903038/u-s-citizen-held-by-immigration-for-3-years-denied-compensation-by-appeals-court http://www.npr.org/2017/08/01/540903038/u-s-citizen-held-by-...
19guid 9y ago
That's why the parent said "legally in the US", not "at the border".
- anonymousiam 9y ago
  You meant to say "within 100 miles of any US border" instead of "at the border".
hueving 9y ago
If you haven't made it through CBP, you aren't legally in the US yet.
- irishasaurus 9y ago
  70% of Americans are under the purview of the CBP and their 100mile sphere of influence. https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
  - linkregister 9y ago
    This is claimed by DHS and not backed by law or legal precedent in the manner you imply. ICE and CBP do conduct arrests pertaining to border violations within that 100 mile zone, but they aren't shaking down random passers-by for their iCloud passwords. They do have to follow due process. I don't have citations because I can't prove a negative.
  - tptacek 9y ago
    This is false, and the ACLU should take this page down. In fact, in the 1970s, the Border Patrol tried to rely on this notional "sphere of influence", and was smacked down by the Supreme Court. Searches concomitant with the Border Search Exemption must have some nexus to an actual, recent border crossing.

jacquesm 9y ago

Even Americans aren't safe: http://www.npr.org/2017/08/01/540903038/u-s-citizen-held-by-immigration-for-3-years-denied-compensation-by-appeals-court http://www.npr.org/2017/08/01/540903038/u-s-citizen-held-by-...

19guid 9y ago

That's why the parent said "legally in the US", not "at the border".

anonymousiam 9y ago
You meant to say "within 100 miles of any US border" instead of "at the border".

hueving 9y ago

If you haven't made it through CBP, you aren't legally in the US yet.

irishasaurus 9y ago
70% of Americans are under the purview of the CBP and their 100mile sphere of influence. https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
- linkregister 9y ago
  This is claimed by DHS and not backed by law or legal precedent in the manner you imply. ICE and CBP do conduct arrests pertaining to border violations within that 100 mile zone, but they aren't shaking down random passers-by for their iCloud passwords. They do have to follow due process. I don't have citations because I can't prove a negative.
- tptacek 9y ago
  This is false, and the ACLU should take this page down. In fact, in the 1970s, the Border Patrol tried to rely on this notional "sphere of influence", and was smacked down by the Supreme Court. Searches concomitant with the Border Search Exemption must have some nexus to an actual, recent border crossing.