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I have so many things that was paid by ads and now is behind a patreon-paywall. A plague. No thanks, bookmark deleted. Ads is a good business model, very unfor

by frik 9y ago

I have so many things that was paid by ads and now is behind a patreon-paywall. A plague. No thanks, bookmark deleted. Ads is a good business model, very unfortunate that greed created this current toxic ads crash browsers and waste way to much CPU cycles - Google & co need to step in and throttle the ads.

falcolas 9y ago
Ads are only a good business model for Google and co. As it stands now, only the obnoxious ads really get any eyeballs/clickthroughs, and click fraud is a huge issue that is disincentivising companies from even offering online advertising. See the example in the original article for a great example: Peter Hollens was originally only ad supported, and was living the raman/couchsurfing life. He is now Patreon supported and making enough to support a family and touring. I don't know of any solely ad supported channels making over $11k a month for 1-2 videos.
SapphireSun 9y ago
Ads are a good business model but a bad cultural model. If your users are paying the bills, only your users can penalize you if you do something an advertiser wouldn't like. If you make a hard hitting documentary that says mean things about powerful people, advertisers pull their funding but your audience might have wanted to see it.
IkmoIkmo 9y ago
Ads suck, they're on the decline because everyone is discovering blockers, they pester 99% of the people with things they'll never click on, require a force against privacy, generates money for a small group of companies, and generally favours quanity-content over meaningful-content (i.e. a meaningful documentary impacting the lives of 5000 people will generate pennies, whereas a cat video that one million watch and may or may not have substantial impact, makes orders of magnitudes more money). Ads are also lovely, I get your point... but let's not pretend it's not great to see an alternative which doesn't suffer (as much) from the above issues, and can build genuine interaction/support/community between creators and users of content.

by frik 9y ago

falcolas 9y ago

Ads are only a good business model for Google and co. As it stands now, only the obnoxious ads really get any eyeballs/clickthroughs, and click fraud is a huge issue that is disincentivising companies from even offering online advertising. See the example in the original article for a great example: Peter Hollens was originally only ad supported, and was living the raman/couchsurfing life. He is now Patreon supported and making enough to support a family and touring. I don't know of any solely ad supported channels making over $11k a month for 1-2 videos.

SapphireSun 9y ago

Ads are a good business model but a bad cultural model. If your users are paying the bills, only your users can penalize you if you do something an advertiser wouldn't like. If you make a hard hitting documentary that says mean things about powerful people, advertisers pull their funding but your audience might have wanted to see it.

IkmoIkmo 9y ago

Ads suck, they're on the decline because everyone is discovering blockers, they pester 99% of the people with things they'll never click on, require a force against privacy, generates money for a small group of companies, and generally favours quanity-content over meaningful-content (i.e. a meaningful documentary impacting the lives of 5000 people will generate pennies, whereas a cat video that one million watch and may or may not have substantial impact, makes orders of magnitudes more money). Ads are also lovely, I get your point... but let's not pretend it's not great to see an alternative which doesn't suffer (as much) from the above issues, and can build genuine interaction/support/community between creators and users of content.