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Is that a problem? Legit question, because I'm not sure why you bring it up

toomuchtodo 9y ago
Causes havoc with societal cohesion. > Social cohesion is defined as the willingness of members of a society to cooperate with each other in order to survive and prosper. https://www.jstor.org/stable/3341872 https://www.jstor.org/stable/3341872
- simlevesque 9y ago
  I'm not convinced that having something in common with someone corrolates with cooperation.
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  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    Please read the entire article if you have the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_functionalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_functionalism
  - ameister14 9y ago
    Well, it definitely corrolates. That's how agreements are made, after all. If you have nothing in common with another person there is no framework for understanding.
    - simlevesque 9y ago
      Why would the type of content you listen to prevent us from ever collaborating ? You gotta be close minded not to collaborate with people who don't consume the same content as you do...
- CaptSpify 9y ago
  I guess I'm not a big fan of too much social cohesion. I actually prefer societies that embrace differences. Though I would agree that can be taken to a dangerous extreme.
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    I'd be curious how, in your model, you'd moderate personal behaviors to tune macro results between social harmony and everyone being a low level sociopath. Historically, peer pressure and social moores provided that functionality. Isn't there a Black Mirror episode about this with social capital? [+] [+] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive
    - CaptSpify 9y ago
      > moderate personal behaviors to tune macro results between social harmony and everyone being a low level sociopath. I guess I'm not sure what you mean by that. examples maybe?
      - toomuchtodo 9y ago
        At the lowest levels, balancing selfishness, vanity, the need for self-actualization, and the expression of empathy and compassion. On one extreme, you have the Dalai Lama, the latest Pope, and Bernie Sanders. The other: the Kardashians, Kanye West, and Martin Shkreli.
        CaptSpify 9y ago
        I guess that I've seen less moderation of personal behaviors via these mechanisms in our current society over my lifetime, and I'm not sure that's a big problem. I'd argue that most of the peer pressure and social moors society (especially local society) pushes are typically a net negative, and as we grow globally, we're realizing that they don't usually make sense. NOTE: I'm mostly talking out of my ass here as I've never really thought much about this subject before. I'd gladly welcome new ways of seeing this issue and facts that counter my view.
dgfgfdagasdfgfa 9y ago
I don't think you could talk about anything like this as "good" or "bad"; it's happening regardless of what anyone thinks, wants, or intends. However, alienation is about to get a hell of a lot more crushing.

Causes havoc with societal cohesion. > Social cohesion is defined as the willingness of members of a society to cooperate with each other in order to survive and prosper. https://www.jstor.org/stable/3341872 https://www.jstor.org/stable/3341872

simlevesque 9y ago
I'm not convinced that having something in common with someone corrolates with cooperation.
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- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  Please read the entire article if you have the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_functionalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_functionalism
- ameister14 9y ago
  Well, it definitely corrolates. That's how agreements are made, after all. If you have nothing in common with another person there is no framework for understanding.
  - simlevesque 9y ago
    Why would the type of content you listen to prevent us from ever collaborating ? You gotta be close minded not to collaborate with people who don't consume the same content as you do...
CaptSpify 9y ago
I guess I'm not a big fan of too much social cohesion. I actually prefer societies that embrace differences. Though I would agree that can be taken to a dangerous extreme.
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  I'd be curious how, in your model, you'd moderate personal behaviors to tune macro results between social harmony and everyone being a low level sociopath. Historically, peer pressure and social moores provided that functionality. Isn't there a Black Mirror episode about this with social capital? [+] [+] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive
  - CaptSpify 9y ago
    > moderate personal behaviors to tune macro results between social harmony and everyone being a low level sociopath. I guess I'm not sure what you mean by that. examples maybe?
    - toomuchtodo 9y ago
      At the lowest levels, balancing selfishness, vanity, the need for self-actualization, and the expression of empathy and compassion. On one extreme, you have the Dalai Lama, the latest Pope, and Bernie Sanders. The other: the Kardashians, Kanye West, and Martin Shkreli.
      - CaptSpify 9y ago
        I guess that I've seen less moderation of personal behaviors via these mechanisms in our current society over my lifetime, and I'm not sure that's a big problem. I'd argue that most of the peer pressure and social moors society (especially local society) pushes are typically a net negative, and as we grow globally, we're realizing that they don't usually make sense. NOTE: I'm mostly talking out of my ass here as I've never really thought much about this subject before. I'd gladly welcome new ways of seeing this issue and facts that counter my view.

dgfgfdagasdfgfa 9y ago

I don't think you could talk about anything like this as "good" or "bad"; it's happening regardless of what anyone thinks, wants, or intends. However, alienation is about to get a hell of a lot more crushing.