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the question in my mind is HOLY FUCK RAPE IS FUCKING AWFUL. act now to prevent the possibility of it happening again. i'm sure folks here will say "but he's in

the question in my mind is HOLY FUCK RAPE IS FUCKING AWFUL. act now to prevent the possibility of it happening again. i'm sure folks here will say "but he's innocent until proven guilty. what about his airbnb income?" stop putting his concerns above the way more concerning impact of rape. stop putting his words above women's words. most women don't make shit up, just like most men don't kill women. airbnb should absolutely do more. as we all should. i hope she left a negative review.

darawk 9y ago
Why is AirBnB responsible for this? Rape is a criminal matter. It should be handled by the police. It's the job of the police and criminal justice system to adjudicate matters like these, not private companies.
- pliftkl 9y ago
  AirBnB didn't rape anyone, they just set up the platform that enabled the rape, and took a cut of the money the woman paid to rent a place in which she was raped. Imagine a taxi company that hired a driver, did background checks, who then is arrested for raping a woman in a taxi. The taxi driver makes bail. Does the taxi company at that point say "Rape is a criminal matter, and it's up to the criminal justice system to adjudicate matters like this, not us" and put him back in a taxi? If they did so, and he raped a second woman, would you argue that the taxi company had absolutely no responsibility, and that it's still the job of the criminal justice system? Really?
  - belorn 9y ago
    Which crimes should we expect companies to do this job? I would imagine that allegations of murders would qualify, as would man slaughter. Clearly armed robbery or any form of crimes that involve bodily harm. Since we are dealing with a imaginary taxi driver, anyone alleged for scamming people seems reasonable that the taxi company end the employment in order to not enabling further crime. But here come the question: Why would this system be preferred over the existing system of police custody? Is the taxi company more suited to evaluate the risk for further crimes? "If they did so, and he raped a second woman, would you argue that the taxi company had absolutely no responsibility" If the police let the person go and they raped a second victim, would you argue that the police had absolutely no responsibility?
  - darawk 9y ago
    > The taxi driver makes bail. Does the taxi company at that point say "Rape is a criminal matter, and it's up to the criminal justice system to adjudicate matters like this, not us" and put him back in a taxi? When he's out on bail? No, i'd say then the taxi company probably ought to suspend him at least until his trial is over. But if he's acquitted? Or if the police say "no, he's ok"? Ya, they should absolutely put him back in a taxi.

darawk 9y ago

Why is AirBnB responsible for this? Rape is a criminal matter. It should be handled by the police. It's the job of the police and criminal justice system to adjudicate matters like these, not private companies.

pliftkl 9y ago
AirBnB didn't rape anyone, they just set up the platform that enabled the rape, and took a cut of the money the woman paid to rent a place in which she was raped. Imagine a taxi company that hired a driver, did background checks, who then is arrested for raping a woman in a taxi. The taxi driver makes bail. Does the taxi company at that point say "Rape is a criminal matter, and it's up to the criminal justice system to adjudicate matters like this, not us" and put him back in a taxi? If they did so, and he raped a second woman, would you argue that the taxi company had absolutely no responsibility, and that it's still the job of the criminal justice system? Really?
- belorn 9y ago
  Which crimes should we expect companies to do this job? I would imagine that allegations of murders would qualify, as would man slaughter. Clearly armed robbery or any form of crimes that involve bodily harm. Since we are dealing with a imaginary taxi driver, anyone alleged for scamming people seems reasonable that the taxi company end the employment in order to not enabling further crime. But here come the question: Why would this system be preferred over the existing system of police custody? Is the taxi company more suited to evaluate the risk for further crimes? "If they did so, and he raped a second woman, would you argue that the taxi company had absolutely no responsibility" If the police let the person go and they raped a second victim, would you argue that the police had absolutely no responsibility?
- darawk 9y ago
  > The taxi driver makes bail. Does the taxi company at that point say "Rape is a criminal matter, and it's up to the criminal justice system to adjudicate matters like this, not us" and put him back in a taxi? When he's out on bail? No, i'd say then the taxi company probably ought to suspend him at least until his trial is over. But if he's acquitted? Or if the police say "no, he's ok"? Ya, they should absolutely put him back in a taxi.