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Everyone seems totally ok with this, I can't really understand why though? Back in 2007 he was called on his absurd energy consumption and pledged he was going

Everyone seems totally ok with this, I can't really understand why though? Back in 2007 he was called on his absurd energy consumption and pledged he was going to do something about it. That right there, in isolation, is fine - he got busted doing (literally) the exact thing he was telling everyone else not to do and said he was going to fix it. Cool no worries, nice one Al. Since then, not only is it still happening but it's gotten an order of magnitude worse AFTER he's taken fairly drastic steps to make his house 'green'. I mean at the very least, shouldn't we be just a little pissed at him for this?

candiodari 9y ago
We should be, but we won't be. Nobody cares about it, least of all the politicians. The Paris Climate conference was hosted at an airport dedicated to the most polluting form of travel in existence (Paris Le Bourget). What can we say ? http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/10/obama-travels-in-private-jet-to-italian-climate-change-conference http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/10/obama-travels-in-private-j... https://www.wired.com/2015/11/the-paris-talks-could-produce-300000-tons-of-co2-hope-theyre-worth-it/ https://www.wired.com/2015/11/the-paris-talks-could-produce-... https://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2015/10/21/private-jet-airport-hosts-paris-climate-summit/ https://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2015/10/21/private-jet-airpo... http://www.mrc.org/articles/media-hype-davos-climate-change-focus-1700-private-jets-fly http://www.mrc.org/articles/media-hype-davos-climate-change-... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6736517/Copenhagen-climate-summit-1200-limos-140-private-planes-and-caviar-wedges.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/copenhagen-climate-cha... Neither does it seem to matter if climate action backfires. I mean, saving energy as a solution to global warming violates basic economic principles (Jevons' paradox, which is a bad name since it isn't a paradox). But even earth hour actually uses more power (because it makes the grid energy use unpredictable, which forces electricity companies to keep producing power ignoring earth hour, and just destroy power they don't need. This is required to avoid blackouts). Appearing to do something is the name of the game. If it doesn't achieve anything, or even if it's incredibly counterproductive ... nobody cares. And of course socialists and the left have always been famous for demanding large changes in other's lifestyles and then refusing to change their own. This is not new: https://erwangrey.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/revolutionary-rolex/ https://erwangrey.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/revolutionary-rol...
kthejoker2 9y ago
I'm not upset per se but it is troubling that with his vast resources and seemingly good faith effort he was unable to make any dent at all in his energy consumption. It certainly makes it seem impossible to achieve for someone with lesser means. It is probably a bit unfair to say he lives there alone, though, aim sure he hosts a lot of parties, fundraisers, etc. And he has a security detail which probably also requires lots of electricity. And so on. I would of course as a data person be extremely interested in these details.

candiodari 9y ago

We should be, but we won't be. Nobody cares about it, least of all the politicians. The Paris Climate conference was hosted at an airport dedicated to the most polluting form of travel in existence (Paris Le Bourget). What can we say ? http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/10/obama-travels-in-private-jet-to-italian-climate-change-conference http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/10/obama-travels-in-private-j... https://www.wired.com/2015/11/the-paris-talks-could-produce-300000-tons-of-co2-hope-theyre-worth-it/ https://www.wired.com/2015/11/the-paris-talks-could-produce-... https://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2015/10/21/private-jet-airport-hosts-paris-climate-summit/ https://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2015/10/21/private-jet-airpo... http://www.mrc.org/articles/media-hype-davos-climate-change-focus-1700-private-jets-fly http://www.mrc.org/articles/media-hype-davos-climate-change-... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6736517/Copenhagen-climate-summit-1200-limos-140-private-planes-and-caviar-wedges.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/copenhagen-climate-cha... Neither does it seem to matter if climate action backfires. I mean, saving energy as a solution to global warming violates basic economic principles (Jevons' paradox, which is a bad name since it isn't a paradox). But even earth hour actually uses more power (because it makes the grid energy use unpredictable, which forces electricity companies to keep producing power ignoring earth hour, and just destroy power they don't need. This is required to avoid blackouts). Appearing to do something is the name of the game. If it doesn't achieve anything, or even if it's incredibly counterproductive ... nobody cares. And of course socialists and the left have always been famous for demanding large changes in other's lifestyles and then refusing to change their own. This is not new: https://erwangrey.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/revolutionary-rolex/ https://erwangrey.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/revolutionary-rol...

kthejoker2 9y ago

I'm not upset per se but it is troubling that with his vast resources and seemingly good faith effort he was unable to make any dent at all in his energy consumption. It certainly makes it seem impossible to achieve for someone with lesser means. It is probably a bit unfair to say he lives there alone, though, aim sure he hosts a lot of parties, fundraisers, etc. And he has a security detail which probably also requires lots of electricity. And so on. I would of course as a data person be extremely interested in these details.