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Zuckerberg hires former Clinton pollster
- jrs95 9y agoSeems like he might really be going for 2020. This might be even more interesting than 2016 was.
- itg 9y agoIf he does run, I can't even imagine the type of data he has access to. What a massive advantage.
- maxxxxx 9y agoI don't think he can just use Facebook's data. That would be insane.
- sergiotapia 9y ago"I promise I won't use it. Pinky promise."
- jrs95 9y agoHe can't but Facebook could give that data over to a Super PAC that was working for him
- Mikeb85 9y agoHiring a member of the losing team, especially one whose polling was obviously very bad (they didn't come close to accurately predicting Clinton's popularity or lack thereof), doesn't seem like the path to victory.
- Avshalom 9y agoto be fair she won the popular by 3m, they just happened to be inefficient votes.
- Mikeb85 9y agoWhich polling should have been able to reflect, and allow her to better target some of the voters she lost. She skipped out on campaigning in several states that flipped for Trump, and didn't really do much to address her (un)likeability. Edit - the US election is won or lost on electoral votes, not the popular vote. You play to win within the rules, not to make excuses.
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- dragonwriter 9y agoClinton's campaigning problems were cobsistent, IIRC, across all of her elections; she consistently lost ground, she just had less of it to lose in her Presidential run. (This is true not only of here Senate and Presidential general election campaigns, but also both Presidential primaries.) It seems likely to me that it wasn't her pollsters from all those elections that were the weakness, but the candidate, who has a strong loyal base within the party, limited ability to hold on to votes that initially lean her way that aren't part of that base, and basically no ability (in part because of hardened negative opinions on a large segment of the electorate) to swing opposed or uncommitted voters.
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- Turing_Machine 9y agoIn particular, she didn't visit Wisconsin even once during the general election campaign.
- sergiotapia 9y agoAllegedly. They're investigating whether a lot of those votes were made by illegal aliens. Here in Miami for example, I was asked for my driver's license. In places like California you can get one of those even as an illegal alien.
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- guelo 9y agoGod damn it. Now all the billionaires are lining up for a run, this is our new dystopia. Trump's election is like the moment in Rome when Caesar crowned himself emperor, the empire went downhill from there. We need to re-establish the old societal norm of hating rich people or all we're going to get are celebrity billionaires from now on. Rich people are inherently bad and evil. They got to where they are by destroying many people along the way. All our efforts as a society must be directed at limiting their power or our democratic experiment is over. Bring back the guillotines!
- justin 9y agoSuch a bunch of bullshit. Plenty of people are rich because they are doctors, surgeons, entrepreneurs who provided a service and created jobs.
- _delirium 9y agoNobody has ever made a billion dollars simply by being a doctor or surgeon. In medicine, it's the pharma investors who make that kind of money, not the people who actually work in hospitals.
- CurryMath 9y agoAnd why would the pharma investors be bad people?
- Turing_Machine 9y agoEspecially since "pharma investors" includes people like the pension fund manager who tries to make sure your grandmother keeps getting her retirement check every month. It's easy to gin up hatred against some mythical Scrooge McDuck character swimming in a money bin. Not so easy when it's that kindly old lady who lives across the street.
- Mikeb85 9y agoEither the billionaires run it or the politicians owned by the billionaires. The fact anyone ever thought it was ruled by the people is kind of amusing.
- pithic 9y agoZuckerberg 2020 Trust Me, Dumb Fucks
- alttab 9y agoSeriously this right here. This reason alone he will never get my vote. His argument would have to be that he is reformed. I'd rather vote for someone who doesn't have to come back from that - especially since it's the reason he's made billions.
- to_bpr 9y ago>This reason alone he will never get my vote. Would you like people to hold an off-the-cuff comment made at the age of 20 against you for the rest of your days? I've many issues with FB, Zuckerberg and the rest of the cohort, but a comment made 13 years ago isn't one of them.
- alttab 9y agoWe trusted him with our data, and he's spent the last 12 years selling it, making billions, and manipulating news/views/free speech to fit his agenda. How is this an off-the-cuff comment? It is his mantra. Are we somehow not dumb-fucks for still giving him our data? Again - he's made billions because of that comment alone. He will never, ever, ever, get my vote.
- DrScump 9y agoor, "How I Became President by Discovering this One Weird Trick..."
- nether 9y agoAm I the only one who thinks this speculation on Zuck running for pres is all nonsense? There's been a revolving door between Dem staff and elite tech industry positions since Obama. No one thought Larry Page or Sergey Brin was going into politics then. He's a young person very interested in politics, and has the wherewithal to explore the arena in some unique ways (visiting random blue collar Americans), but there's no indication he's ready to abandon his duties at FB. Or is there?
- alttab 9y agoHe will barely meet the age requirement by 2020
- goatsi 9y agoPeople who are merely exploring the country to learn more about it rarely feel the need to intensively document it using a professional media team.
- weirdstuff 9y agoHe's making the same public motions that an office-seeker would perform. I don't think it's off base to connect the dots.
- teekno 9y ago/gif its happening
- RickJWag 9y agoShould've hired from Bernie's team. He was outspent, fighting against the DNC (and the media), operating on grass roots rather than machine politics. He almost won. In fairness, much of the same could be said of Trump. Hillary's team lost in spite of massive inorganic advantages.
- CurryMath 9y agoI know this is completely off-topic, but what's up with the comments? To me they seem as kinda unusual for HN, more reddit-like. Among all the threads I have looked at in the last few hours, this is the only one where it is so extreme.
- weirdstuff 9y agoIn all fairness the idea of Zuckerberg running for president is a little extreme (even if true) and is likely to be the subject of ridicule and criticism.
- CurryMath 9y agoI understand that, bu usually HN refrains from commenting repetitive one-liners. The main reason I come to HN instead of just living on reddit is that the chance that the comments refer to content in the article and not just the sentiment of the headline is much greater. Also, comments are somewhat unique. The trouble with reddit comments is that they are completely overrun with extremely predictable memes or express some sort of emotion (usually outrage or hype) without adding anything. I really fear that HN turns into a subreddit, because I have no idea what site I would go to next.
- _delirium 9y ago"HN is turning into reddit now, it used to be different" is perhaps the most repetitive comment on all of HN, though. People have been making this complaint for years and years now. It's so common that in fact there's a rule against it in the HN rules, https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html: If your account is less than a year old, please don't submit comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a common semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills. (And that rule itself was written at least 5 years ago.)
- tj-teej 9y agoPolitics, Clinton, Zuckerberg, no-concrete point to debate. "It would be a disaster of epic proportions. It would be... the perfect storm."