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> it’s just the end symptom of many things I'm not disagreeing, but "systems" is the reason I've often heard in this discussion without ANY real hard data expa
by bentruyman 9y ago
> it’s just the end symptom of many things
I'm not disagreeing, but "systems" is the reason I've often heard in this discussion without ANY real hard data expanding on what these systems precisely are and how they aren't a reflection merely of, let's say, biology. All I see generally when referring to "systems" are anecdotes and high-level conclusions based purely on personal experiences. None of which helps further the discussion. If you can find these systems, prove them, I'll be right there with ya tearing them down.
- abritinthebay 9y agoWell there are entire fields of science dedicated to this. It’s like asking someone to “prove philosophy”. It’s not quite the right question.
- bentruyman 9y agoThen it should be easy to enumerate the issues, and offer some ideas for solutions. As someone who follows this issue quite closely, I've seen neither. This entire thread illustrates the confusion – and that there is absolutely no consensus that even an issue exists in the first place.