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"These are four year olds, they have no preferences. It's purely parents projecting gender roles onto their kids." Without litigating this specific case in any
by dionidium 9y ago
"These are four year olds, they have no preferences. It's purely parents projecting gender roles onto their kids."
Without litigating this specific case in any detail, I just want to argue more generally that of course 4-year-olds (and much younger) have gender-based preferences and that there is loads of research confirming this. It's remarkable that this is considered even remotely controversial.
- rayiner 9y agoI'm talking about preferences regarding science camp versus princess camp (or a chemistry degree versus an English degree). My daughter is incredibly gender normative. Everything is pink and frilly and she refuses to wear pants. But she has no idea that science is for boys.
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- reefoctopus 9y agoThis is the monthly thread where everybody pretends that testosterone and estrogen don't exist.
- rayiner 9y agoIt's not that testosterone and estrogen don't exist. It's the conceptual leap that testosterone and estrogen explain why women go into one work field versus another. Especially when those proportions vary dramatically across countries. (Do Iranian women, where the majority of STEM majors are women, have different estrogen than American women?).
- reefoctopus 9y agoIt sounds like Iran is suffering from a terrible gender imbalance in STEM majors. Is anything being done to correct this problem?
- AjithAntony 9y ago"Third world" enrollments might not be a valid comparison as STEM is seen as a road to riches. A valid comparison would be a country where women have the privilege of choosing to not seek money.