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I don't know anything about the "milk lobby". What I do know is that Milk consumption started 5000 years ago, at the dawn of civilization. That is no coincidenc

I don't know anything about the "milk lobby". What I do know is that Milk consumption started 5000 years ago, at the dawn of civilization. That is no coincidence.

logfromblammo 9y ago
Goat milk plus folic acid would be better for an infant 12 months or older than bovine milk. Bovine and goat milks are unsuitable for infants under 12 months, because they contain too much protein in undiluted form, and not enough nutrition content when diluted to safe protein levels. The dawn of civilization up until the industrial age fed human babies exclusively on their mothers' milk, or upon the milk of a human wet nurse. Those that could not feed in this manner died. It was very tragic, and it made a lot of people very sad. Consuming bovine milk is not a critical step in human evolution. It's just a culinary choice. People also ate locusts back then. It didn't catch on as well, because cheese tastes better, and doesn't have raspy, sticklike hindlegs that get stuck in your teeth if you don't snip them off with kitchen scissors. You can certainly feed your baby pureed grasshoppers, but most people don't, because they are squeamish about insectophagy themselves.
- bitJericho 9y ago
  Woah I never said anything about feeding a baby cow milk! We're talking about an 18 month old here.
  - logfromblammo 9y ago
    It's obligatory to mention it whenever talking about giving milk to infants. Besides that, if veteran parents don't make green parents neurotic about screwing their kids up for the rest of their lives, the industry that sells them books and useless crap might collapse.
- bitJericho 9y ago
  It was not a dietary choice. We were lactose intolerant up until 5000 years ago. It was so useful to human survival that we quickly became capable of consuming dairy. Look up some life expectancy research https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090722083720.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090722083720.h...
mustacheemperor 9y ago
Sure, and just like with grain and other staples dairy is a massive, profitable industry with public and government lobbying organizations, like the one you linked. I'm not picking a fight with you and have no qualms with dairy consumption, I'm just saying your sources are potentially just as biased as the wheat based food pyramid. If you're trying to convince people milk is healhy there's better options. And as far as necessary for civilization, it's not like every human society in history emerged cultivating cattle.

I don't know anything about the "milk lobby". What I do know is that Milk consumption started 5000 years ago, at the dawn of civilization. That is no coincidence.

logfromblammo 9y ago

Goat milk plus folic acid would be better for an infant 12 months or older than bovine milk. Bovine and goat milks are unsuitable for infants under 12 months, because they contain too much protein in undiluted form, and not enough nutrition content when diluted to safe protein levels. The dawn of civilization up until the industrial age fed human babies exclusively on their mothers' milk, or upon the milk of a human wet nurse. Those that could not feed in this manner died. It was very tragic, and it made a lot of people very sad. Consuming bovine milk is not a critical step in human evolution. It's just a culinary choice. People also ate locusts back then. It didn't catch on as well, because cheese tastes better, and doesn't have raspy, sticklike hindlegs that get stuck in your teeth if you don't snip them off with kitchen scissors. You can certainly feed your baby pureed grasshoppers, but most people don't, because they are squeamish about insectophagy themselves.

bitJericho 9y ago
Woah I never said anything about feeding a baby cow milk! We're talking about an 18 month old here.
- logfromblammo 9y ago
  It's obligatory to mention it whenever talking about giving milk to infants. Besides that, if veteran parents don't make green parents neurotic about screwing their kids up for the rest of their lives, the industry that sells them books and useless crap might collapse.
bitJericho 9y ago
It was not a dietary choice. We were lactose intolerant up until 5000 years ago. It was so useful to human survival that we quickly became capable of consuming dairy. Look up some life expectancy research https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090722083720.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090722083720.h...

mustacheemperor 9y ago

Sure, and just like with grain and other staples dairy is a massive, profitable industry with public and government lobbying organizations, like the one you linked. I'm not picking a fight with you and have no qualms with dairy consumption, I'm just saying your sources are potentially just as biased as the wheat based food pyramid. If you're trying to convince people milk is healhy there's better options. And as far as necessary for civilization, it's not like every human society in history emerged cultivating cattle.