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> God ordered all Canaanites exterminated in Deuteronomy and Joshua tells the story of that extermination. Their reappearance in the following book proves scrip

> God ordered all Canaanites exterminated in Deuteronomy and Joshua tells the story of that extermination. Their reappearance in the following book proves scripture wrong without any help from scientists. 1. Joshua tells the story of that extermination. WHERE does it say they we exterminated? As someone that has read a ton I have no idea where this idea started from. Probably some modern non-academic "bible expert." Joshua 16:10 They did not dislodge the Canaanites living in Gezer; to this day the Canaanites live among the people of Ephraim but are required to do forced labor. Sample of Lazy Academics or Research. Theology is a serious discipline and is pretty addicting. I know many PhD and Professors who were never Christians or Jews and just love this stuff because of the discipline. Also if you don't read much ancient writings and especially biographies and histories you can easily get caught in a trap. Taking a modern world mindset to those reads renders them void and mute. Just like the colors many other things are very different to the mindset of Ancient Near East and Greece then today. I can tell you I am absolutely shocked and disappointed in most modern Christian leaders and non-academic "Biblical Scholars." I just figure they don't actually read or study anything. They just listen to opinions with no academic or logical mindset and just run with emotional ideas. This is why their is Hermeneutics (academic discipline of interpenetration of literature) that many preachers rail against. This is part of why we have the crazy lack of morals and principles in the modern Christians here in America. So I don't blame you for just figuring Joshua exterminated Canaanites.

boomboomsubban 9y ago
>WHERE does it say they we exterminated? As someone that has read a ton I have no idea where this idea started from. Probably some modern non-academic "bible expert." Deuteronomy commands the Israelites to 7:2-3 >and when the LORD thy God shall deliver them up before thee, and thou shalt smite them; then thou shalt utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them; neither shalt thou make marriages with them: thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son And 20:16-17 >Howbeit of the cities of these peoples, that the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth but thou shalt utterly destroy them: the Hittite, and the Amorite, the Canaanite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; The following book is Joshua which focuses on how Joshua's conquest were a result of his following the commandments so well. Any discrepancy found is because all of this is like the Iliad, fiction loosely based on real events. Yes, I have read this. It's part of what ended the belief in Christianity I had. Yes, I realize this is how war was carried out basically forever. That is why I reject any set of morales or principles that ever view them as tolerable.
- baldfat 9y ago
  Not exterminated just the Land was conqueered. Yes God commanded the extermination, as well as bashing the heads of babies onto rocks, but it didn't happen. No where in the scriptures of the Hebrews does it say they were exterminated. Joshua 16:10 They did not dislodge the Canaanites living in Gezer; to this day the Canaanites live among the people of Ephraim but are required to do forced labor. Yes Israel came and kicked out many people groups to settle in Israel but they never exterminated. The Old Testament is full of stories of neighbors being a pain to Israel.
  - boomboomsubban 9y ago
    No, exterminated. The book describes the killing of many complete cities, like Jericho in 6:21 > And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. Ai in 8:24 >And it came to pass, when Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field, in the wilderness wherein they chased them, and when they were all fallen on the edge of the sword, until they were consumed, that all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword And the Gezer you keep clinging to in 10:33 >Then Horam king of Gezer came up to help Lachish; and Joshua smote him and his people, until he had left him none remaining. I have no idea why it later says they didn't slay them. There is still enough description of putting everyone to the sword to call it extermination.
    - baldfat 9y ago
      > There is still enough description of putting everyone to the sword to call it extermination. BUT still today there is DNA evidence that they were alive just as written in JOSHUA and in JUDGES. Also they did not kill everyone and took wives like Rahab who was in David's genealogy? This was an easy 5 minute search to answer "Did the Hebrew scriptures say they were exterminated?" "Were Cananites mentioned further on in the scriptures?" "Are they till alive after the conquering of the lands?" Okay I usually enjoy this but I guess there is personal issues involved that doesn't allow you to even allow you to be skeptical and find a logical answer and just are a cynic? Sorry to have bothered you if you even reading this. A) I pointed out that the DNA of Canaanites still in existence, as per new article this year is consistent with the Hebrew scriptures. B) People stated this disproved the Hebrew scriptures since they are said to be exterminated which is counter to my stance and evidence in Joshua and Judges. C) Your statement Joshua was the story of Canaanites extermination, but MY evidence was that Canaanites are still alive in Joshua as of its writing and also in Judges. This would mean that it is no surprise that there is DNA evidence to this day. D) You define Exterminate to mean destroying MOST of the cities and most of the Canaanites. This would still account for why we have DNA evidence of Canaanites. E) Your conclusion is that the history record of the Hebrew scriptures is wrong because there is DNA evidence of them today and they were Exterminated but your definition stats that they were not completely wiped out but mostly killed, which is consistent to warfare in that time period and era? E) We have a logical error and sorry to say this but I don't believe it is on my end. There is something once again not allowing you to even be open to the possibility that in this DNA evidence doesn't disprove Hebrew scriptures. Hope you have a good day, sorry to bring up something hurtful possibly?

boomboomsubban 9y ago

>WHERE does it say they we exterminated? As someone that has read a ton I have no idea where this idea started from. Probably some modern non-academic "bible expert." Deuteronomy commands the Israelites to 7:2-3 >and when the LORD thy God shall deliver them up before thee, and thou shalt smite them; then thou shalt utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them; neither shalt thou make marriages with them: thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son And 20:16-17 >Howbeit of the cities of these peoples, that the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth but thou shalt utterly destroy them: the Hittite, and the Amorite, the Canaanite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; The following book is Joshua which focuses on how Joshua's conquest were a result of his following the commandments so well. Any discrepancy found is because all of this is like the Iliad, fiction loosely based on real events. Yes, I have read this. It's part of what ended the belief in Christianity I had. Yes, I realize this is how war was carried out basically forever. That is why I reject any set of morales or principles that ever view them as tolerable.

baldfat 9y ago
Not exterminated just the Land was conqueered. Yes God commanded the extermination, as well as bashing the heads of babies onto rocks, but it didn't happen. No where in the scriptures of the Hebrews does it say they were exterminated. Joshua 16:10 They did not dislodge the Canaanites living in Gezer; to this day the Canaanites live among the people of Ephraim but are required to do forced labor. Yes Israel came and kicked out many people groups to settle in Israel but they never exterminated. The Old Testament is full of stories of neighbors being a pain to Israel.
- boomboomsubban 9y ago
  No, exterminated. The book describes the killing of many complete cities, like Jericho in 6:21 > And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. Ai in 8:24 >And it came to pass, when Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field, in the wilderness wherein they chased them, and when they were all fallen on the edge of the sword, until they were consumed, that all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword And the Gezer you keep clinging to in 10:33 >Then Horam king of Gezer came up to help Lachish; and Joshua smote him and his people, until he had left him none remaining. I have no idea why it later says they didn't slay them. There is still enough description of putting everyone to the sword to call it extermination.
  - baldfat 9y ago
    > There is still enough description of putting everyone to the sword to call it extermination. BUT still today there is DNA evidence that they were alive just as written in JOSHUA and in JUDGES. Also they did not kill everyone and took wives like Rahab who was in David's genealogy? This was an easy 5 minute search to answer "Did the Hebrew scriptures say they were exterminated?" "Were Cananites mentioned further on in the scriptures?" "Are they till alive after the conquering of the lands?" Okay I usually enjoy this but I guess there is personal issues involved that doesn't allow you to even allow you to be skeptical and find a logical answer and just are a cynic? Sorry to have bothered you if you even reading this. A) I pointed out that the DNA of Canaanites still in existence, as per new article this year is consistent with the Hebrew scriptures. B) People stated this disproved the Hebrew scriptures since they are said to be exterminated which is counter to my stance and evidence in Joshua and Judges. C) Your statement Joshua was the story of Canaanites extermination, but MY evidence was that Canaanites are still alive in Joshua as of its writing and also in Judges. This would mean that it is no surprise that there is DNA evidence to this day. D) You define Exterminate to mean destroying MOST of the cities and most of the Canaanites. This would still account for why we have DNA evidence of Canaanites. E) Your conclusion is that the history record of the Hebrew scriptures is wrong because there is DNA evidence of them today and they were Exterminated but your definition stats that they were not completely wiped out but mostly killed, which is consistent to warfare in that time period and era? E) We have a logical error and sorry to say this but I don't believe it is on my end. There is something once again not allowing you to even be open to the possibility that in this DNA evidence doesn't disprove Hebrew scriptures. Hope you have a good day, sorry to bring up something hurtful possibly?