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"Personal crisis." I was a homemaker for a lot of years. I also happened to be too sick to hold down a job during that time, but homemaker sounds so much bette

by Mz 9y ago

"Personal crisis." I was a homemaker for a lot of years. I also happened to be too sick to hold down a job during that time, but homemaker sounds so much better on a resume. Find a preferably true and accurate description that is palatable to employers. Then realize it is tough all over at the moment. LOTS of people are having trouble getting hired at all.

wutbrodo 9y ago
Do you mind if I ask if you're a woman? IIRC there's pretty substantial hiring discrimination against men who claim to be homemakers (because it's less common so people assume that they're lying). The other side of the coin obviously being that women with kids are discriminated against in hiring due to assumptions that they'll be distracted by their family obligations.
- Mz 9y ago
  Yes, I am a woman. No need to ask: It is listed in my profile. Also: I did not suggest a man call himself a homemaker. So, I am not sure what the point of your comment is.
  - wutbrodo 9y ago
    > Also: I did not suggest a man call himself a homemaker. So, I am not sure what the point of your comment is. Uh, I'm not sure where this hostility is coming from. Just because someone responds to your comment doesn't mean they're disagreeing with you. I was just adding the context for anyone who sees your comment and interprets it narrowly as thinking that putting 'homemaker' on their resume gap is a useful way to explain it away without understanding the pitfall for 50% of the workforce.
    - Mz 9y ago
      I don't see why you are calling that hostility. You could have made the point you made here without implying I was suggesting that some man should go with that framing. I am quite open about my gender. Lots of people recognize that I am female. Those that don't can easily determine my gender by clicking into my profile. I have zero reason to believe people will interpret my remark to mean that men should call themselves homemakers.
      - wutbrodo 9y ago
        > I don't see why you are calling that hostility. Claiming that "I don't see the point of your comment" isn't hostile is just disingenuous. > You could have made the point you made here without implying I was suggesting that some man should go with that framing. > I have zero reason to believe people will interpret my remark to mean that men should call themselves homemakers. No such implication was made. I liked your comment and was adding context that I thought was relevant. I also didn't claim that you were hiding your gender? I don't check everyone's profile on the off chance that it has the relevant information about them that I'm about to ask them. If you're not mature enough to handle someone _agreeing with_ and trying to expand on your comment without imagining yourself under attack by implications you pulled out of thin air, this conversation is a waste of both of our time.

by Mz 9y ago

wutbrodo 9y ago

Do you mind if I ask if you're a woman? IIRC there's pretty substantial hiring discrimination against men who claim to be homemakers (because it's less common so people assume that they're lying). The other side of the coin obviously being that women with kids are discriminated against in hiring due to assumptions that they'll be distracted by their family obligations.

Mz 9y ago
Yes, I am a woman. No need to ask: It is listed in my profile. Also: I did not suggest a man call himself a homemaker. So, I am not sure what the point of your comment is.
- wutbrodo 9y ago
  > Also: I did not suggest a man call himself a homemaker. So, I am not sure what the point of your comment is. Uh, I'm not sure where this hostility is coming from. Just because someone responds to your comment doesn't mean they're disagreeing with you. I was just adding the context for anyone who sees your comment and interprets it narrowly as thinking that putting 'homemaker' on their resume gap is a useful way to explain it away without understanding the pitfall for 50% of the workforce.
  - Mz 9y ago
    I don't see why you are calling that hostility. You could have made the point you made here without implying I was suggesting that some man should go with that framing. I am quite open about my gender. Lots of people recognize that I am female. Those that don't can easily determine my gender by clicking into my profile. I have zero reason to believe people will interpret my remark to mean that men should call themselves homemakers.
    - wutbrodo 9y ago
      > I don't see why you are calling that hostility. Claiming that "I don't see the point of your comment" isn't hostile is just disingenuous. > You could have made the point you made here without implying I was suggesting that some man should go with that framing. > I have zero reason to believe people will interpret my remark to mean that men should call themselves homemakers. No such implication was made. I liked your comment and was adding context that I thought was relevant. I also didn't claim that you were hiding your gender? I don't check everyone's profile on the off chance that it has the relevant information about them that I'm about to ask them. If you're not mature enough to handle someone _agreeing with_ and trying to expand on your comment without imagining yourself under attack by implications you pulled out of thin air, this conversation is a waste of both of our time.