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consider? the law is the law. apple will simply be subjected to massive damage.

by abiox 9y ago

Buge 9y ago
Will Google? "The law is the law" is a very simplistic way of looking at things. Laws can be challenged in court. Google is doing that with a Canadian law right now[1]. Laws can be found unconstitutional. Laws can be overturned. Laws can be repealed. Laws can be unenforced. For example smoking weed in Colorado. A simple "the law is the law" outlook might conclude that it's illegal to sell weed in Colorado, and any business doing so "will simply be subjected to massive damage". Laws can be interpreted and misinterpreted by judges, lawyers, prosecutors, etc. Smart people can disagree about what a law means. Some interpretations say anyone under 13 who reads the New York Times website is a criminal under the CFAA[2]. Some people argue that the average person commits 3 felonies a day[3]. [1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/google-sues-in-us-court-to-block-canadas-sweeping-de-indexing-order/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/google-sues-in-u... [2] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/04/are-you-teenager-who-reads-news-online-according-justice-department-you-may-be https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/04/are-you-teenager-who-r... [3] https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229 https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp...
- abiox 9y ago
  until a law is removed from the books, it remains the law. none of these other details are particularly relevant to obeying the law when it is in effect.
  - Buge 9y ago
    If a law is on the books but completely unenforced, how is it relevant? Apple should obey every old illogical law from 200 years ago that's never enforced, and is actually harmful if followed? Many of the other details are relevant as well. Apple could obey the law and challenge it, like Google is doing with the Canadian law.

consider? the law is the law. apple will simply be subjected to massive damage.

by abiox 9y ago

consider? the law is the law. apple will simply be subjected to massive damage.

Buge 9y ago

Will Google? "The law is the law" is a very simplistic way of looking at things. Laws can be challenged in court. Google is doing that with a Canadian law right now[1]. Laws can be found unconstitutional. Laws can be overturned. Laws can be repealed. Laws can be unenforced. For example smoking weed in Colorado. A simple "the law is the law" outlook might conclude that it's illegal to sell weed in Colorado, and any business doing so "will simply be subjected to massive damage". Laws can be interpreted and misinterpreted by judges, lawyers, prosecutors, etc. Smart people can disagree about what a law means. Some interpretations say anyone under 13 who reads the New York Times website is a criminal under the CFAA[2]. Some people argue that the average person commits 3 felonies a day[3]. [1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/google-sues-in-us-court-to-block-canadas-sweeping-de-indexing-order/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/google-sues-in-u... [2] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/04/are-you-teenager-who-reads-news-online-according-justice-department-you-may-be https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/04/are-you-teenager-who-r... [3] https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229 https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp...

abiox 9y ago
until a law is removed from the books, it remains the law. none of these other details are particularly relevant to obeying the law when it is in effect.
- Buge 9y ago
  If a law is on the books but completely unenforced, how is it relevant? Apple should obey every old illogical law from 200 years ago that's never enforced, and is actually harmful if followed? Many of the other details are relevant as well. Apple could obey the law and challenge it, like Google is doing with the Canadian law.