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Well if you dig in a little more the question of who and when get really fuzzy regarding Homer. Also there is still the long held idea regarding Homer's blindne

Well if you dig in a little more the question of who and when get really fuzzy regarding Homer. Also there is still the long held idea regarding Homer's blindness. I find many scholars to be academically lazy when it comes to things outside their area of expertise and don't do simple research. For example last weeks story of DNA of Canaanites from the time of Exodus is still in Lebanon. Many ran the idea that the scripture account was proven wrong when in fact if they did a 2 minute search of the word Canaanites and see they were never wiped out or destroyed. Judges 3:5-6 The Israelites lived among the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 5So the people of Israel lived among the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. 5The sons of Israel lived among the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; 5And the children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites, Hittites, and Amorites, and Perizzites, and Hivites, and Jebusites: 5But they settled among the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites. 6They took their daughters in marriage and gave their own daughters to their sons, and served their gods. So I find the arguements against Homer being blind very weak in regards to what we think humans are capable of doing. One visiting Professor of much clout was talking about the impossibility of the human mind to memorize and compose without writing something as large as Homer's works. Well doing a 60 minute research on memorization and oral tradition we can see how people memorized huge quantities of materials. Also it is clear that the fall of Troy was in the 12th Century BCE and Illad was written around 8th Century BCE due to memorization clues and the use of the 8th Century Greek alphabet and hints to a oral history. http://www.ancient-literature.com/greece_homer_iliad.html http://www.ancient-literature.com/greece_homer_iliad.html I could go on for hours :( But the use of Homer and his writings makes it difficult to see how human catalog of color missed out blue. Heck we never had orange till reciently before it was red-yellow. This is why red heads are not called orange heads. > The earliest recorded use of the word in English is from the 13th century and referred to the fruit. The earliest attested use of the word in reference to the color is from the 16th century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_(word) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_(word) (to lazy myself (hypocrite) to get further references)

boomboomsubban 9y ago
>Many ran the idea that the scripture account was proven wrong when in fact if they did a 2 minute search of the word Canaanites and see they were never wiped out or destroyed. God ordered all Canaanites exterminated in Deuteronomy and Joshua tells the story of that extermination. Their reappearance in the following book proves scripture wrong without any help from scientists. >But the use of Homer and his writings makes it difficult to see how human catalog of color missed out blue. The human catalog didn't, the Greeks of Homer's time probably did. If you put the Iliad as being written in the 8th century, indigo dye wasn't being produced in India yet, and Egyptian Blue would have been incredibly scarce given the state of Egypt at the time.
- baldfat 9y ago
  > God ordered all Canaanites exterminated in Deuteronomy and Joshua tells the story of that extermination. Their reappearance in the following book proves scripture wrong without any help from scientists. 1. Joshua tells the story of that extermination. WHERE does it say they we exterminated? As someone that has read a ton I have no idea where this idea started from. Probably some modern non-academic "bible expert." Joshua 16:10 They did not dislodge the Canaanites living in Gezer; to this day the Canaanites live among the people of Ephraim but are required to do forced labor. Sample of Lazy Academics or Research. Theology is a serious discipline and is pretty addicting. I know many PhD and Professors who were never Christians or Jews and just love this stuff because of the discipline. Also if you don't read much ancient writings and especially biographies and histories you can easily get caught in a trap. Taking a modern world mindset to those reads renders them void and mute. Just like the colors many other things are very different to the mindset of Ancient Near East and Greece then today. I can tell you I am absolutely shocked and disappointed in most modern Christian leaders and non-academic "Biblical Scholars." I just figure they don't actually read or study anything. They just listen to opinions with no academic or logical mindset and just run with emotional ideas. This is why their is Hermeneutics (academic discipline of interpenetration of literature) that many preachers rail against. This is part of why we have the crazy lack of morals and principles in the modern Christians here in America. So I don't blame you for just figuring Joshua exterminated Canaanites.

boomboomsubban 9y ago

>Many ran the idea that the scripture account was proven wrong when in fact if they did a 2 minute search of the word Canaanites and see they were never wiped out or destroyed. God ordered all Canaanites exterminated in Deuteronomy and Joshua tells the story of that extermination. Their reappearance in the following book proves scripture wrong without any help from scientists. >But the use of Homer and his writings makes it difficult to see how human catalog of color missed out blue. The human catalog didn't, the Greeks of Homer's time probably did. If you put the Iliad as being written in the 8th century, indigo dye wasn't being produced in India yet, and Egyptian Blue would have been incredibly scarce given the state of Egypt at the time.

baldfat 9y ago
> God ordered all Canaanites exterminated in Deuteronomy and Joshua tells the story of that extermination. Their reappearance in the following book proves scripture wrong without any help from scientists. 1. Joshua tells the story of that extermination. WHERE does it say they we exterminated? As someone that has read a ton I have no idea where this idea started from. Probably some modern non-academic "bible expert." Joshua 16:10 They did not dislodge the Canaanites living in Gezer; to this day the Canaanites live among the people of Ephraim but are required to do forced labor. Sample of Lazy Academics or Research. Theology is a serious discipline and is pretty addicting. I know many PhD and Professors who were never Christians or Jews and just love this stuff because of the discipline. Also if you don't read much ancient writings and especially biographies and histories you can easily get caught in a trap. Taking a modern world mindset to those reads renders them void and mute. Just like the colors many other things are very different to the mindset of Ancient Near East and Greece then today. I can tell you I am absolutely shocked and disappointed in most modern Christian leaders and non-academic "Biblical Scholars." I just figure they don't actually read or study anything. They just listen to opinions with no academic or logical mindset and just run with emotional ideas. This is why their is Hermeneutics (academic discipline of interpenetration of literature) that many preachers rail against. This is part of why we have the crazy lack of morals and principles in the modern Christians here in America. So I don't blame you for just figuring Joshua exterminated Canaanites.