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Maybe because pricing by, say Amazon, is published on their web site and therefore, the same for everyone ? Whereas before, when you were with one supplier, he

by wiz21c 9y ago

Maybe because pricing by, say Amazon, is published on their web site and therefore, the same for everyone ? Whereas before, when you were with one supplier, he could make specific price for you and leverage its position to make you pay more ? dunno...

arethuza 9y ago
I'd be very surprised if big users of AWS or Azure pay the rates advertised on the public web sites.
- latch 9y ago
  Like most large business, AWS has a sales department and sales engineers that behave like you expect. Rates are absolutely negotiable.
  - sokoloff 9y ago
    Having negotiated both, AWS is negotiable within a range that is much tighter than the range for enterprise sales of Cisco, EMC, etc gear. (Or AWS has better negotiators, but I've never gotten a call "Hey, Qx is about to end and I need to hit my numbers, so is there anything we can pull forward" from an AWS rep.)
  - patta54 9y ago
    Our AWS rep is nice and cheery. He'll come into our office twice a year and bring sales engineers to hear about our upcoming projects. There's one lead developer on our team who keeps imagining systems that use half a dozen AWS services for "big data". The AWS dudes always end up talking to him the most and they definitely bait him with various pitches and, of course, feed his ego. Good thing that he's so disorganized and delayed that he never has a chance to waste company money on all that bullshit.
- michaelt 9y ago
  Right, nobody pays /more/ than the published prices. And prospective users can look at the published prices, and see that historically they've gone down more than they've gone up (although obviously that trend could reverse). So people think they're safe from the risk of Amazon quadrupling their bill over night. Of course, vendor lock-in can have other negative effects, but apparently people aren't worried about them, or at least think AWS is no worse than the alternatives.
  - arethuza 9y ago
    Well, if you aren't in the US there is forex risk - Azure certainly increased their prices in the aftermath of the Brexit vote decrease of GDP against the USD.
    - mtl_usr 9y ago
      Doing any kind of business in non-USD currency is itself not a great move.
jrimbault 9y ago
They could show everyone different prices (like plane tickets)

by wiz21c 9y ago

arethuza 9y ago

I'd be very surprised if big users of AWS or Azure pay the rates advertised on the public web sites.

latch 9y ago
Like most large business, AWS has a sales department and sales engineers that behave like you expect. Rates are absolutely negotiable.
- sokoloff 9y ago
  Having negotiated both, AWS is negotiable within a range that is much tighter than the range for enterprise sales of Cisco, EMC, etc gear. (Or AWS has better negotiators, but I've never gotten a call "Hey, Qx is about to end and I need to hit my numbers, so is there anything we can pull forward" from an AWS rep.)
- patta54 9y ago
  Our AWS rep is nice and cheery. He'll come into our office twice a year and bring sales engineers to hear about our upcoming projects. There's one lead developer on our team who keeps imagining systems that use half a dozen AWS services for "big data". The AWS dudes always end up talking to him the most and they definitely bait him with various pitches and, of course, feed his ego. Good thing that he's so disorganized and delayed that he never has a chance to waste company money on all that bullshit.
michaelt 9y ago
Right, nobody pays /more/ than the published prices. And prospective users can look at the published prices, and see that historically they've gone down more than they've gone up (although obviously that trend could reverse). So people think they're safe from the risk of Amazon quadrupling their bill over night. Of course, vendor lock-in can have other negative effects, but apparently people aren't worried about them, or at least think AWS is no worse than the alternatives.
- arethuza 9y ago
  Well, if you aren't in the US there is forex risk - Azure certainly increased their prices in the aftermath of the Brexit vote decrease of GDP against the USD.
  - mtl_usr 9y ago
    Doing any kind of business in non-USD currency is itself not a great move.

jrimbault 9y ago

They could show everyone different prices (like plane tickets)