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Not the dreaded "C" word! Thank god capitalist countries have such outstanding human rights records.
by cooper12 9y ago
Not the dreaded "C" word! Thank god capitalist countries have such outstanding human rights records.
- veidr 9y agoI take your point, but China specifically has an absysmal, wretched human rights record.
- askvictor 9y agoSo fits well with companies from the US, which also specifically has an appalling human rights record.
- CountSessine 9y agoInteresting ... how many dissidents are currently rotting in Google's prisons?
- comex 9y agoOr, more to the point, in US prisons? Arguably Chelsea Manning, but her offense (stealing secrets) was considerably different from mere speech, and she's out of prison now.
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- honestoHeminway 9y agoIn all cooperate colonies? Do outsourced prisons count?
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- askvictor 9y agoUS prisons; Political dissidents not so much, but instead look at the general prison situation, particularly blacks and impoverished, and you start to see what I'm talking about. Then there's the whole Guantanamo bay thing...
- matthewmacleod 9y agoThis is one of the reasons that it's so hard to have constructive conversations about this sort of issue – the gross hyperbole. The US judicial system, prisons and government obviously have many flaws, arguably getting worse, and has a difficult relationship with human rights. However, the US government does not do things like nationally censor particular children's cartoons because they might insult the president (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/17/winnie-the-pooh-chinese-internet-censors-xi-jinping https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/17/winnie-the-poo...) or jail human rights activists for 'subversion' (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/25/china-jails-liu-xiaobo https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/25/china-jails-li...). The US has a human rights problem in some senses; China has an objectively worse one. It's okay to criticise the latter as well.
- askvictor 9y agoWasn't trying to stop people from criticising China's; I agree it's appalling. But many seem to forget that the US' is also terrible.
- am1988 9y agoThat's called whataboutism and it's a common tactic to try and divert attention and excuse appalling behaviour.
- dis-sys 9y agoFixed for you - The Chinese judicial system, prisons and government obviously have many flaws, arguably getting worse, and has a difficult relationship with human rights. However, the Chinese government does not do things like operating Guantanamo Bay or cause civilian deaths using WMD as excuses. How many civilians got killed in Iraq as a direct consequence of US invasion? Their lives worth less than those human right activists? Censoring winnie the pooh? then tell me how come there are tens of thousands of winnie the pooh related products (toys, books, clothes etc) on Taobao.com? https://s.taobao.com/search?ie=utf8&q=winnie+the+pooh https://s.taobao.com/search?ie=utf8&q=winnie+the+pooh
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- am1988 9y agoChina has an appalling human rights record and they aren't trying to get much better.