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> Those groups have very specific agendas. I'm not sure what that means; doesn't every group have an agenda? I think the implication is that these groups' age

> Those groups have very specific agendas. I'm not sure what that means; doesn't every group have an agenda? I think the implication is that these groups' agendas are no better than any other groups' agendas. I think that's clearly wrong; we can't take politically correct relativism and openness to a logical extreme - we must make distinctions between good and bad (though carefully reasoned ones). Though I agree we should be careful, and no group or agenda is perfect, the agendas of hate groups are not just as good as the ADL's, for example. > They shouldn't be allowed to block articles which disagree with their agenda. Is that the standard used by Google?

samirillian 9y ago
The question isn't whether one group can be assumed better than the other (obviously, the ADL is less bad than ISIS). It's whether any group is "correct" enough to be trusted with controlling the spectrum of the conversation. Beyond that basic observation, I can't speak to the other groups, but to me, the degree of anti-Arab bias that the ADL exhibits is really appalling, and I have no confidence whatsoever in their ability to fairly filter the news for the masses.
Stanish 9y ago
Without getting into the CIA's clear connections to ISIS, or Google's clear connections to the intelligence sector, I can only cringe at the Orwellian language they use to justify their drastic increase in censorship activities on what should be completely open informational channels akin to physical public commons. George Carlin said that when fascism comes to America, it would look like political correctness.
crdoconnor 9y ago
The ADL appears to be picked because they're a very powerful political lobby in Washington. This move is a fairly blatant attempt to curry political favor. I wouldn't say that there's a moral equivalence between the ADL's agenda (promoting Israel) and, say, Amnesty's agenda (ending torture & political imprisonment). Amnesty got hit by the latest "fake news" google update: https://mronline.org/2017/07/28/new-google-algorithm-restricts-access-to-left-wing-progressive-web-sites/ https://mronline.org/2017/07/28/new-google-algorithm-restric...
- mcherm 9y ago
  I had no idea that was happening. Thank you for making this important point.
- forapurpose 9y ago
  > The ADL appears to be picked because they're a very powerful political lobby in Washington Do you have any basis for that statement? And what lobby do you mean? Is this a conspiracy of Jews controlling the world that you are alleging? > the ADL's agenda (promoting Israel) The ADL's agenda is anti-discrimination, against Jews in particular but also against others. They've stood up to Trump's discriminatory actions too.

samirillian 9y ago

The question isn't whether one group can be assumed better than the other (obviously, the ADL is less bad than ISIS). It's whether any group is "correct" enough to be trusted with controlling the spectrum of the conversation. Beyond that basic observation, I can't speak to the other groups, but to me, the degree of anti-Arab bias that the ADL exhibits is really appalling, and I have no confidence whatsoever in their ability to fairly filter the news for the masses.

Stanish 9y ago

Without getting into the CIA's clear connections to ISIS, or Google's clear connections to the intelligence sector, I can only cringe at the Orwellian language they use to justify their drastic increase in censorship activities on what should be completely open informational channels akin to physical public commons. George Carlin said that when fascism comes to America, it would look like political correctness.

crdoconnor 9y ago

The ADL appears to be picked because they're a very powerful political lobby in Washington. This move is a fairly blatant attempt to curry political favor. I wouldn't say that there's a moral equivalence between the ADL's agenda (promoting Israel) and, say, Amnesty's agenda (ending torture & political imprisonment). Amnesty got hit by the latest "fake news" google update: https://mronline.org/2017/07/28/new-google-algorithm-restricts-access-to-left-wing-progressive-web-sites/ https://mronline.org/2017/07/28/new-google-algorithm-restric...

mcherm 9y ago
I had no idea that was happening. Thank you for making this important point.
forapurpose 9y ago
> The ADL appears to be picked because they're a very powerful political lobby in Washington Do you have any basis for that statement? And what lobby do you mean? Is this a conspiracy of Jews controlling the world that you are alleging? > the ADL's agenda (promoting Israel) The ADL's agenda is anti-discrimination, against Jews in particular but also against others. They've stood up to Trump's discriminatory actions too.