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There Are No Pictures of iPhone 4 on Google Image Search

60 points by cloudwalking 16y ago

cloudwalking 16y ago
This seems very strange to me. There are no Apple PR pictures or pictures taken by normal folks. On the second page of results there's a picture of a picture of the phone (at the keynote), but it's not until page six that there's actually a picture of the thing. And it's the stolen Gizmodo one at that. Am I the only one that finds this really weird? (Here's a screenshot, as I imagine this will change at some point: http://cloudwalking.posterous.com/where-are-all-the-iphone-4-pictures http://cloudwalking.posterous.com/where-are-all-the-iphone-4...)
- itistoday 16y ago
  Maybe in retaliation at Apple, Google applied their porn-filtering AI prowess to remove iPhone 4 off the face of Google Image Search? </conspiracy> (They start to appear after page 5 btw).
  - c1sc0 16y ago
    Or when you search for 'iphone4'
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hko 16y ago
Odd. There are on Yahoo image search: http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A9G_bDiWzTJM8mQAxsqJzbkF?p=%22iphone+4%22 http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A9G_bDiWzT...
m_eiman 16y ago
Maybe an effect of SEO madness and the enormous hype surrounding everything iPhone?
navitronic 16y ago
There are no iPad images either.
- bombs 16y ago
  They start at the end of the first page.
poundy 16y ago
Pretty interesting.. but there are a few results for "iphone four". http://www.google.co.uk/images?&q=iphone+four http://www.google.co.uk/images?&q=iphone+four. In the UK version the first image result is the iphone 4.
KirinDave 16y ago
Normally i nod knowingly and say, "No one appreciates how hard image search really is." But in this case, both Bing and Yahoo do much better. Usually Bing image search is better than google image search, but not by this much. iPad images are similarly scarce. I wonder what's up? Could google really be this ham-fisted? I find it hard to believe, given that textual searches are not similarly obscured.
natmaster 16y ago
I know this may sound crazy, but ever thought of using Bing? Web experience is pretty good too: http://www.bing.com/search?q=iphone+4 http://www.bing.com/search?q=iphone+4
- cromulent 16y ago
  I have an irrational objection - every time I go there I think of Needle Nose Ned from the movie Groundhog Day. Bing!
- revorad 16y ago
  It is quite cool. A very good friend of mine just landed a job with the Bing team. He is super excited about the work they are doing.
  - michaelcampbell 16y ago
    Not to be a total pedant here, but word of mouth from a friend whose livelihood depends on Bing is not a great indicator of how great Bing is.
- jonknee 16y ago
  Why? Their image search isn't any better: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=iphone+4&FORM=BIFD http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=iphone+4&FORM=BIFD
  - dalore 16y ago
    Actually it is. I found an iphone 4 image: http://images.fastcompany.com/upload/iphone4-giz.jpg http://images.fastcompany.com/upload/iphone4-giz.jpg Compared to the google search which got none.
lunchbox 16y ago
There are some: http://www.google.com/images?q=%2B%22iphone+4%22&hl=en&tbs=isch:1&ei=G9IyTJrXGsyDnged4I33BA&sa=N&start=20&ndsp=20 http://www.google.com/images?q=%2B%22iphone+4%22&hl=en&#... Perhaps the "4" confuses Google.
sh1mmer 16y ago
IIRC image search updated way less frequently than search itself. If that is still true it may explain why there are "prototype" and "concept" images but not release images.
pizzaman 16y ago
ipad images are "blocked" (or at least they were when it was released) and it seems like they're doing the same with the iphone. Well, apple won't allow google ads in their apps anymore...
vegasbrianc 16y ago
Put the word Apple in front iPhone 4 and iPad. This will help your search.
burriko 16y ago
Google's image search is a very different beast to their text search. It isn't continually updated in the same way, instead they seem to do an update every month or so. It's 1 month since wwdc when images of iphone 4 appeared, so it's possible that they just haven't done an update in that time.
jamn 16y ago
At least it seems to me that Droid X has similar problems: http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=droid%20x&gbv=2&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=droid%20x&gbv=2...
sounddust 16y ago
Google Image search is unfortunately not real-time. This is not the first time someone has noticed. Google was accused of censoring the Abu-Ghraib images, because several weeks after the event, the photos could not be found on Google Images. Google replied: In short, There is no censorship here. We are embarassed that our image index is not updated as frequently as it should be. Expect a refresh in the near future. http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?cid=10747654&sid=128815&tid=153 http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?cid=10747654&sid=128... Then they were accused of censoring a picture of Egyptian striker Mohammad Aboutrika's goal celebration where he revealed a T-shirt with the message "Sympathize with Gaza". Matt Cutts had to write a blog entry debunking this claim. http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-a-misconception-plus-a-reminder-of-how-search-engines-work/ http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-a-misconception-plus...
- dieterrams 16y ago
  I'm happy to accept this as the correct explanation, and I'm in no hurry to assign petty motives to Google over this, but in your last link, Matt Cutts says "it can take a few days between when an image appears and when its crawled by the Googlebot." And by "a few days," he appears to literally mean less than a week. But it's been almost a full month since the WWDC keynote, and nearly two weeks since customers have been posting a barrage of iPhone 4 pictures to the web. So I'm doubtful that Google Images' delayed refresh rate is a sufficient explanation. Edit: In response to your reply below, you might be right. I've only tried a few searches, but images of major events from the past month seem hard to come by. A search for 'Galaxy S' does give some results from within the past month (the first result was from June 23), as does a search for 'Kindle graphite' (July 2), but presumably refreshes aren't comprehensive. Still, a month-long refresh rate is really surprising. If you need to find images from a recent event, Google Image search may be practically useless.
  - sounddust 16y ago
    I can't find any pictures of the World Cup matches, despite it having started on June 11. All I see is stock photography. In fact, I can't find pictures of any event that has occurred in the past month. Seems like the index is in fact out of date and Matt Cutts is overestimating the indexing speed of Google Images. In the case of the Abu Ghraib photos, it took around 1 month for the images to appear.

60 points by cloudwalking 16y ago

This seems very strange to me. There are no Apple PR pictures or pictures taken by normal folks. On the second page of results there's a picture of a picture of the phone (at the keynote), but it's not until page six that there's actually a picture of the thing. And it's the stolen Gizmodo one at that. Am I the only one that finds this really weird? (Here's a screenshot, as I imagine this will change at some point: http://cloudwalking.posterous.com/where-are-all-the-iphone-4-pictures http://cloudwalking.posterous.com/where-are-all-the-iphone-4...)

itistoday 16y ago
Maybe in retaliation at Apple, Google applied their porn-filtering AI prowess to remove iPhone 4 off the face of Google Image Search? </conspiracy> (They start to appear after page 5 btw).
- c1sc0 16y ago
  Or when you search for 'iphone4'

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hko 16y ago

Odd. There are on Yahoo image search: http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A9G_bDiWzTJM8mQAxsqJzbkF?p=%22iphone+4%22 http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A9G_bDiWzT...

m_eiman 16y ago

Maybe an effect of SEO madness and the enormous hype surrounding everything iPhone?

navitronic 16y ago

There are no iPad images either.

bombs 16y ago
They start at the end of the first page.

poundy 16y ago

Pretty interesting.. but there are a few results for "iphone four". http://www.google.co.uk/images?&q=iphone+four http://www.google.co.uk/images?&q=iphone+four. In the UK version the first image result is the iphone 4.

KirinDave 16y ago

Normally i nod knowingly and say, "No one appreciates how hard image search really is." But in this case, both Bing and Yahoo do much better. Usually Bing image search is better than google image search, but not by this much. iPad images are similarly scarce. I wonder what's up? Could google really be this ham-fisted? I find it hard to believe, given that textual searches are not similarly obscured.

natmaster 16y ago

I know this may sound crazy, but ever thought of using Bing? Web experience is pretty good too: http://www.bing.com/search?q=iphone+4 http://www.bing.com/search?q=iphone+4

cromulent 16y ago
I have an irrational objection - every time I go there I think of Needle Nose Ned from the movie Groundhog Day. Bing!
revorad 16y ago
It is quite cool. A very good friend of mine just landed a job with the Bing team. He is super excited about the work they are doing.
- michaelcampbell 16y ago
  Not to be a total pedant here, but word of mouth from a friend whose livelihood depends on Bing is not a great indicator of how great Bing is.
jonknee 16y ago
Why? Their image search isn't any better: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=iphone+4&FORM=BIFD http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=iphone+4&FORM=BIFD
- dalore 16y ago
  Actually it is. I found an iphone 4 image: http://images.fastcompany.com/upload/iphone4-giz.jpg http://images.fastcompany.com/upload/iphone4-giz.jpg Compared to the google search which got none.

lunchbox 16y ago

There are some: http://www.google.com/images?q=%2B%22iphone+4%22&hl=en&tbs=isch:1&ei=G9IyTJrXGsyDnged4I33BA&sa=N&start=20&ndsp=20 http://www.google.com/images?q=%2B%22iphone+4%22&hl=en&#... Perhaps the "4" confuses Google.

sh1mmer 16y ago

IIRC image search updated way less frequently than search itself. If that is still true it may explain why there are "prototype" and "concept" images but not release images.

pizzaman 16y ago

ipad images are "blocked" (or at least they were when it was released) and it seems like they're doing the same with the iphone. Well, apple won't allow google ads in their apps anymore...

vegasbrianc 16y ago

Put the word Apple in front iPhone 4 and iPad. This will help your search.

burriko 16y ago

Google's image search is a very different beast to their text search. It isn't continually updated in the same way, instead they seem to do an update every month or so. It's 1 month since wwdc when images of iphone 4 appeared, so it's possible that they just haven't done an update in that time.

jamn 16y ago

At least it seems to me that Droid X has similar problems: http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=droid%20x&gbv=2&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=droid%20x&gbv=2...

sounddust 16y ago

Google Image search is unfortunately not real-time. This is not the first time someone has noticed. Google was accused of censoring the Abu-Ghraib images, because several weeks after the event, the photos could not be found on Google Images. Google replied: In short, There is no censorship here. We are embarassed that our image index is not updated as frequently as it should be. Expect a refresh in the near future. http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?cid=10747654&sid=128815&tid=153 http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?cid=10747654&sid=128... Then they were accused of censoring a picture of Egyptian striker Mohammad Aboutrika's goal celebration where he revealed a T-shirt with the message "Sympathize with Gaza". Matt Cutts had to write a blog entry debunking this claim. http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-a-misconception-plus-a-reminder-of-how-search-engines-work/ http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-a-misconception-plus...

dieterrams 16y ago
I'm happy to accept this as the correct explanation, and I'm in no hurry to assign petty motives to Google over this, but in your last link, Matt Cutts says "it can take a few days between when an image appears and when its crawled by the Googlebot." And by "a few days," he appears to literally mean less than a week. But it's been almost a full month since the WWDC keynote, and nearly two weeks since customers have been posting a barrage of iPhone 4 pictures to the web. So I'm doubtful that Google Images' delayed refresh rate is a sufficient explanation. Edit: In response to your reply below, you might be right. I've only tried a few searches, but images of major events from the past month seem hard to come by. A search for 'Galaxy S' does give some results from within the past month (the first result was from June 23), as does a search for 'Kindle graphite' (July 2), but presumably refreshes aren't comprehensive. Still, a month-long refresh rate is really surprising. If you need to find images from a recent event, Google Image search may be practically useless.
- sounddust 16y ago
  I can't find any pictures of the World Cup matches, despite it having started on June 11. All I see is stock photography. In fact, I can't find pictures of any event that has occurred in the past month. Seems like the index is in fact out of date and Matt Cutts is overestimating the indexing speed of Google Images. In the case of the Abu Ghraib photos, it took around 1 month for the images to appear.