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If you look outside first world countries, yes. Check out the progressive web apps talks in Google IO 2017 - most of the examples on stage were indian companies

If you look outside first world countries, yes. Check out the progressive web apps talks in Google IO 2017 - most of the examples on stage were indian companies flipkart.com, housing.com and a few others. I work on www.justickets.in myself. We have a huge Android market here, but they're all phones with very low storage and slow 3G connections, so the default way to get an 'app' out is a HTML5 progressive web app. And the companies here work hard to make things run fast and smooth on slow devices.

jrimbault 9y ago
Anecdotal, I remember a few months back someone showed here on HN "skytorrents.in", which I assume was made by an Indian, it was blazzingly fast.
usegolang 9y ago
I'm not sure how effective it is but I always liked the idea of forcing engineers to use those 3g speeds 1 day a week so they are more inclined to support those customers. Iirc FB does this to some degree, but I think they have a different lightweight version of FB intended for those audiences
- k__ 9y ago
  Sounds good, but in my experience 3g also varies by an order of magnitude (5 KB/s - 50 KB/s). When I have 20-50 KB/s stable 3g, browsing the web is a bit slow, but most sites work pretty good. Also messenger aren't a problem. But working below 20 KB/s is a pain.
  - ed312 9y ago
    Chrome dev tools has a reasonable connection bandwidth simulator. Is there a good one that also simulates variability / packet loss in addition to bandwidth caps?
- atonse 9y ago
  Yup – I love this idea. I actually occasionally test my single page apps under 3g connections to see how the loading experience works.
- josephg 9y ago
  It'd be nice to have a simple way to limit a chrome tab's available CPU in the same way. The computers, tablets and phones most people browse on are an order of magnitude slower than the desktop machines we use to develop.
  - irth 9y ago
    You can throttle the CPU in Chrome Devtools
shash7 9y ago
Yeah I remember back in India page speed was a real concern not because google could penalize you but the network speed was so slow. Not sure now but back then Bsnl used to suck big time. After coming to Australia, everyone here treats +4mb websites as normal which was a real mind twister for me. Thankfully pagespeed has always been my concern regardless of network speeds due to my 'conditioning' years ago.

jrimbault 9y ago

Anecdotal, I remember a few months back someone showed here on HN "skytorrents.in", which I assume was made by an Indian, it was blazzingly fast.

usegolang 9y ago

I'm not sure how effective it is but I always liked the idea of forcing engineers to use those 3g speeds 1 day a week so they are more inclined to support those customers. Iirc FB does this to some degree, but I think they have a different lightweight version of FB intended for those audiences

k__ 9y ago
Sounds good, but in my experience 3g also varies by an order of magnitude (5 KB/s - 50 KB/s). When I have 20-50 KB/s stable 3g, browsing the web is a bit slow, but most sites work pretty good. Also messenger aren't a problem. But working below 20 KB/s is a pain.
- ed312 9y ago
  Chrome dev tools has a reasonable connection bandwidth simulator. Is there a good one that also simulates variability / packet loss in addition to bandwidth caps?
atonse 9y ago
Yup – I love this idea. I actually occasionally test my single page apps under 3g connections to see how the loading experience works.
josephg 9y ago
It'd be nice to have a simple way to limit a chrome tab's available CPU in the same way. The computers, tablets and phones most people browse on are an order of magnitude slower than the desktop machines we use to develop.
- irth 9y ago
  You can throttle the CPU in Chrome Devtools

shash7 9y ago

Yeah I remember back in India page speed was a real concern not because google could penalize you but the network speed was so slow. Not sure now but back then Bsnl used to suck big time. After coming to Australia, everyone here treats +4mb websites as normal which was a real mind twister for me. Thankfully pagespeed has always been my concern regardless of network speeds due to my 'conditioning' years ago.