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Just a quick reminder, if everyone here donates just 3-5$, the expenses will be paid in no time :) Krita is a great software, and even though I'm not an artist
by dbrgn 9y ago
Just a quick reminder, if everyone here donates just 3-5$, the expenses will be paid in no time :)
Krita is a great software, and even though I'm not an artist it's worth supporting.
- sddfd 9y agoHow would I dontate? The site seems down atm.
- boudewijnrempt 9y agoIt's very slow... The hackernews effect, I'm afraid. Internationally, paypal is easiest: just use foundation@krita.org. Otherwise, for people in the EU, our bank account is ING, BIC: INGBNL2A, IBAN: NL72INGB0007216397 .
- laumars 9y agoI hope this (the "Hacker News effect") doesn't bump up your hosting costs as that's the last thing you'd need. For what it's worth, I've donated. :)
- dom0 9y agoEU bank transfers are free of charge.
- kobeya 9y agoHe meant server hosting costs.
- deanclatworthy 9y agoThis is not true for every bank in every EU country.
- icebraining 9y agoYes, I believe the only requirement is that the cost can't exceed of a national transfer, which is unfortunately still not free everywhere in the EU.
- tempay 9y agoI think you can also be charged if a currency conversion is involved (both directly and indirectly through poor exchange rates).
- markvdb 9y agoEuro denominated transactions within the SEPA zone (more than just the EU!) cannot be more expensive than domestic euro transactions. See https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area .
- beojan 9y agoBut if your country doesn't use the Euro (i.e. the UK), domestic Euro transactions can be more expensive than domestic transactions in the home currency.
- onestone 9y agoThe same loophole is used in Bulgaria. Our largest bank charges 7 EUR for receiving 1 EUR, and 19 EUR for sending 1 EUR.
- sigio 9y agoING Bank charges about 7 cents per transaction on business accounts... it's free on personal accounts.
- therealmarv 9y agonope, only in comparison to domestic charges. In some countries like e.g. Cyprus you have to pay ~3 Euro for a SEPA transfer.
- Moter8 9y agoSEPA transfers are usually free for personal accounts, be it sending or recieving, but business accounts usually charge a < 10 cent fee for recieving a transaction.
- shdon 9y agoI don't even use Krita, but donated €15 anyway, just because I know what it's like to deal with the utter shitstains at the VAT department of the Dutch tax service.
- icebraining 9y agoAs someone who recently paid 200€ in fines to another EU tax authority over 150€ in income, of which I was exempt, just for marking the wrong box, I can sympathize. Just made a small donation.
- antjanus 9y agoIn the US, a wrong "box" cost me around over $3K last year. This shit happens, unfortunately.
- majewsky 9y agoI sent you 50€. Hope it helps.
- skrebbel 9y agoThanks, direct bank is way easier for me than PayPal. Just donated!
- skrebbel 9y agoThanks, direct bank is way easier for me than PayPal. Just donated!
- Facens 9y agoWhat about Project of the month on www.unixstickers.com/donations ? I can help
- rplnt 9y agoYou are not supporting the software but bad practices resulting in fines and fees. But there's hoping a lesson was learned. It would be a shame if something like this damaged the product.
- DanBC 9y agoYou say bad practices, but they got advice from a registered qualified professional in a complex area of tax law.
- rplnt 9y agoYeah, I see, I didn't mean to say it was intentional.
- Sujan 9y agoIf this were the case, wouldn't that person be liable then?
- gcp 9y agoThey would need to prove they suffered loss (and an actual error!). That's not clear in this situation. Not paying taxes you were due isn't extra costs due to your accountant, although fines and interests may be.
- Sujan 9y agoSo it doesn't work like this? A: Hey B, how do we have to set up our company/foundation so this doesn't blog up and we have to pay non-sensical taxes only because of the way we are set up? B: Do it this way: ... (later) Z: A, you have to pay taxes because your setup is strange and makes no sense to our rules. B: Damn, we're liable for the bad advice we gave... (honest question)
- TheOtherHobbes 9y agoNo. Legally, the hired professional is an advisor. The board/management are collectively responsible for picking a good advisor and double-checking his/her recommendations. Bottom line: no one takes responsibility for anything (unless they're on the board) and you are on the hook for everything. This also applies to lawyers, property professionals, medical professionals, engineers, architects, and so on. Of course this is outrageously unfair, but the reality is that winning compensation for incompetence and malpractice is incredibly hard and expensive - and most professional contracts include explicit disclaimers of responsibility in an attempt to make it even harder.
- buster 9y agoYou're right. Although i don't use it, i just spent a few euros :)
- wjvdhoek 9y agoI'd love to find out how much is raised via HN :) I donated a few euros as well.
- boudewijnrempt 9y agoThat's a bit hard to figure out, since paypal doesn't track that. The total donated since the story came out is 3159.95 euros.
- ChrisRR 9y agoSame. I don't use it, but I've heard it's extremely high quality, open source software, which we could always use more of. So I've thrown a few euros their way.
- mannycalavera42 9y agodonated
- scandox 9y agoGave 10 euros via paypal
- eutropia 9y agoDonated, good luck Krita team!
- hankmander 9y agoDonated 10 Euro.
- antjanus 9y agoThanks for pointing that out. I usually don't donate but did so this time. Is there a list of open source software that is going through similar hardships that need donations?
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- dflock 9y agoPretty much all of them?
- zx2c4 9y agoI'm not in any financial hardship at the moment, but I am looking to stop doing other work and focus more exclusively on WireGuard, so I put up a donation and patreon page: https://www.wireguard.com/donations/ https://www.wireguard.com/donations/ https://www.patreon.com/zx2c4 https://www.patreon.com/zx2c4
- numlocked 9y agoNever heard of Krita before, but certainly looks like a high-quality, valuable project that tried to do things right. Donated!
- canada_dry 9y agoDone!