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It might be the large US population of homeless people worsens this (especially in the bay area), as they have no better option than to leave their waste in pub

by dtech 9y ago

It might be the large US population of homeless people worsens this (especially in the bay area), as they have no better option than to leave their waste in public places.

Symbiote 9y ago
That's still the US's problem to fix though. Other countries provide public toilets. With a quick search, I can only find maps for the London Underground and Britain generally: [1] http://content.tfl.gov.uk/toilets-map.pdf http://content.tfl.gov.uk/toilets-map.pdf [2] https://greatbritishpublictoiletmap.rca.ac.uk/ https://greatbritishpublictoiletmap.rca.ac.uk/ (many semi-public also listed)
legulere 9y ago
At least according to Wikipedia, many European countries have a higher homeless rate than the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeless_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeless_...
- ihaveajob 9y ago
  The US is a big place, which averages away the extremes. In San Francisco, population 868k, there are about 10-12k homeless folks (http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Francisco-homelessness-by-the-numbers-10767735.php http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Francisco-homeless...), which puts it at over 1% homelessness. That's a tragic number for such a wealthy city.
  - chongli 9y ago
    It's only a tragic reflection on the city if you assume all the homeless are born and raised there. How many of those migrated there from colder climates? How many were given a bus ticket by their home city and sent there? SF spends an absolute fortune on homeless people. That, coupled with its temperate climate, makes it a magnet for many types of homeless people.
    - ihaveajob 9y ago
      Correct, but I have never seen such concentration of homeless people anywhere in Spain, where climate varies significantly as well, and economic conditions are historically harsher. But there's a safety net that prevents most people from falling all the way down.
fundabulousrIII 9y ago
Years ago I travelled through norcal without stopping in to SF. Started in Crescent City, traversed into Oregon, past Shasta region and the farthest south I achieved was to Santa Rosa. Headed east to Oroville and then back to Crescent City to catch my prop flight to SF for the flight east. Wonderful personal trip on the winding mountain roads and experiencing the abrupt climate|vista changes in an hour+ from pacific coast to desert. Morning 50 degrees, afternoon 80+. It was my first time in norcal and the thing that shocked me the most (reading my emails to friends from that time) was the filth, poverty and mental illness in the towns and cities.
- thrownblown 9y ago
  That's not really California. That's Hela Nor-cal, or the Jefferson State.
  - fundabulousrIII 9y ago
    Explain please, I'm an easterner. (edit) I see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_st...

by dtech 9y ago

It might be the large US population of homeless people worsens this (especially in the bay area), as they have no better option than to leave their waste in public places.

Symbiote 9y ago

That's still the US's problem to fix though. Other countries provide public toilets. With a quick search, I can only find maps for the London Underground and Britain generally: [1] http://content.tfl.gov.uk/toilets-map.pdf http://content.tfl.gov.uk/toilets-map.pdf [2] https://greatbritishpublictoiletmap.rca.ac.uk/ https://greatbritishpublictoiletmap.rca.ac.uk/ (many semi-public also listed)

legulere 9y ago

At least according to Wikipedia, many European countries have a higher homeless rate than the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeless_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeless_...

ihaveajob 9y ago
The US is a big place, which averages away the extremes. In San Francisco, population 868k, there are about 10-12k homeless folks (http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Francisco-homelessness-by-the-numbers-10767735.php http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Francisco-homeless...), which puts it at over 1% homelessness. That's a tragic number for such a wealthy city.
- chongli 9y ago
  It's only a tragic reflection on the city if you assume all the homeless are born and raised there. How many of those migrated there from colder climates? How many were given a bus ticket by their home city and sent there? SF spends an absolute fortune on homeless people. That, coupled with its temperate climate, makes it a magnet for many types of homeless people.
  - ihaveajob 9y ago
    Correct, but I have never seen such concentration of homeless people anywhere in Spain, where climate varies significantly as well, and economic conditions are historically harsher. But there's a safety net that prevents most people from falling all the way down.

fundabulousrIII 9y ago

Years ago I travelled through norcal without stopping in to SF. Started in Crescent City, traversed into Oregon, past Shasta region and the farthest south I achieved was to Santa Rosa. Headed east to Oroville and then back to Crescent City to catch my prop flight to SF for the flight east. Wonderful personal trip on the winding mountain roads and experiencing the abrupt climate|vista changes in an hour+ from pacific coast to desert. Morning 50 degrees, afternoon 80+. It was my first time in norcal and the thing that shocked me the most (reading my emails to friends from that time) was the filth, poverty and mental illness in the towns and cities.

thrownblown 9y ago
That's not really California. That's Hela Nor-cal, or the Jefferson State.
- fundabulousrIII 9y ago
  Explain please, I'm an easterner. (edit) I see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_st...