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July 2017 Hacker News Hiring Trends
- do5 9y agoI quickly verified with some Chrome CTRL+F action on the "Who Is Hiring" HN thread described in this post that this is mostly accurate information per the data set. Many hat tips to you good sir, thank you.
- benjyclay 9y agoVery thorough. Congrats.
- mountaineer 9y agoThank you!
- jampa 9y agoI wish you could also see raw values of those posts, some things I could not draw a conclusion from it. Example: Rails took a huge percentage hit (-12%), still node.js only got up (+3%), so is web jobs disappearing? or new jobs being created and the market expanding (Machine learning & AI)? Node is going up, React is going up, but Javascript in going down... what gives?
- benjyclay 9y agoJavascript going down could just be a case that the job posters are assuming for all the JS libraries (node.js/React) that you know JS and not posting it in their Ad. I don't think that the rails hit, is the result of fewer web jobs. I think it's more a case of the web is transitioning into more JS led architecture.
- mountaineer 9y agoAuthor here, the Rails drop was a strange one, since it just had a strong June, from 85 postings in June to 59 in July with similar total posting counts in both months. From what I've seen over the years, month to month changes can be hard to explain, so will see if it becomes a trend. The raw data used for the chart is available in the GitHub repo or in the JS file. * https://www.hntrends.com/data/data-20170702.js https://www.hntrends.com/data/data-20170702.js * https://github.com/ryanwi/hiringtrends/blob/master/web/data/ https://github.com/ryanwi/hiringtrends/blob/master/web/data/
- myth_drannon 9y agoI noticed the same trend on StackOverflow careers, it's down about the same percentage comparing to a year ago. Rails is not as exciting anymore. Ruby meetups in my city(Montreal) have less attendants than the new Elixir meetup. http://www.reallyhyped.com/?keywords=ruby%2Cruby-on-rails http://www.reallyhyped.com/?keywords=ruby%2Cruby-on-rails
- davedx 9y agoThe commentary about vue.js doesn't seem to be backed up by the data: https://www.hntrends.com/2017/july.html?compare1=React&compare2=AngularJS&compare3=Vue&compare4=Ember https://www.hntrends.com/2017/july.html?compare1=React&compa...
- mountaineer 9y agoAuthor here. Good point, I saw it pop up on the "rising" tab and made a quick assumption. Vue had 7 postings, ranking it 84th in July vs 0 postings last July. Compared with React's 146 postings, it does indeed have a long way to go, but it could still knock React from the #1 spot this year I think.
- benjyclay 9y agoIm surprised PHP isn't among the top few...
- duiker101 9y agoI'd say it's because HN is a bit of a "hipster" crowd and there are more startups, with fresh stacks that want to use new exciting technologies, than corporations with a "solid" base.
- cooervo 9y agothat explains Python which I suppose includes Django, and Vue.js
- caseymarquis 9y agoVue is backend agnostic. You can use it with anything.
- pyre 9y agoI think that the parent post could be better written as: > Python (which I suppose includes Django), and Vue.js it's too easy to read it as: > Python (which I suppose includes Django, and Vue.js)
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- lmm 9y agoI wouldn't regard PHP as solid or corporate. Rather it's usually a sign of a business which started out as a website made by less-technical people. (Which can be the best kind to join as a technical person, as it means your skills are likely to be complementary to what they already have).
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- CalRobert 9y agoAre any of these companies worried that their use of React constrains them legally? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14779881 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14779881
- allover 9y agoDoubt it. See 'React, Facebook, and the Revocable Patent License. Why It’s a Paper Tiger': https://medium.com/@dwalsh.sdlr/react-facebook-and-the-revokable-patent-license-why-its-a-paper-25c40c50b562 https://medium.com/@dwalsh.sdlr/react-facebook-and-the-revok...
- CalRobert 9y agoThanks for sharing. I contribute to an Apache project that uses React and it's been a pain.
- lettergram 9y agoI think: > I contribute to an Apache project Has been the primary souce of pain
- allover 9y agoNo probs, OOI what has your project decided to do? Is switching to Preact deemed acceptable?
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- dejv 9y agoIt seems like time of mainstream native mobile apps development is over. I used to get a multiple job/contract offers every week to write another iOS app, but they stop coming during last year. Nowadays I might get one offer every other month or so. Does anybody else feels it same or is it just my own case?
- celim307 9y agoInteresting. Do you think React native has something to do with this?
- dejv 9y agoNo idea. Contracts I am seeing nowadays all seems to be all about web apps and mobile apps are afterthougts. From about 2012 - 2016 it was all about mobile first strategy.
- frogfuzion 9y agoI doubt it's related at all. A client probably wouldn't specifically ask for a "React Native" app. I would think this trend has more to due with app marketplace saturation.
- celim307 9y agoTrue but the consulting firm/company might find it cheaper and easier to find 'react native' devs than a swift programmer.
- cgb223 9y agoI've had the same feeling here. According to Indeed.com's Job Trends, its a real thing: https://www.indeed.com/jobtrends/q-ios-developer.html https://www.indeed.com/jobtrends/q-ios-developer.html I got laid off a month and a half ago. Usually when I'm looking for work it takes less than a month. For whatever reason I'm still looking now. I hope I don't have to switch over to react.
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- soroso 9y agoLovely that PHP has been relegated from programming language to framework.
- mountaineer 9y agoRight, it's not a perfect fit, but I put it up against the main Web frameworks as those are what PHP competes with.
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- agentgt 9y agoI'm not that much of Go fan but I'm surprised its not on the top 20 list even if it is mainly startups hiring.
- mountaineer 9y agoGo's probably the most underrepresented, since it currently only counts by the full "golang" term. I need to update the script to find capital G "Go".
- chrissnell 9y agoI think the numbers are skewed somewhat because of the kinds of teams where Go is used. This is just my observation but more Go usage seems to happening on infrastructure/operations/DevOps teams, where it is used for system automation, metrics, networking montioring, etc. These teams are typically have a fraction of the staffing of companies' greater software developer organizations and thus, the jobs are not as numerous.
- famousactress 9y ago"Passionate" is down five points over last month. Summertime :)
- dartf 9y agoIt looks like there is some correlation between passionate and python: https://www.hntrends.com/2017/july.html?compare1=passionate&compare2=Python https://www.hntrends.com/2017/july.html?compare1=passionate&...
- magic_beans 9y agoMaybe it's the alliteration.
- 5trokerac3 9y agoI'm surprised Angular 2/4 is not an option on the list.