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Google recently started aggressively marketing Youtube Red. When you watch a youtube video, a small popup asks if you want an ad-free experience, consider upgra

Google recently started aggressively marketing Youtube Red. When you watch a youtube video, a small popup asks if you want an ad-free experience, consider upgrading .. This is worrying as Spotify has no moat. Youtube Red is definitely a better value as you ad-free + offline youtube with music. I am a paying Spotify customer and if they improve their client, I might jump ship.

peterjlee 9y ago
I was using Spotify then jumped ship to Youtube Red and used Google Music for about a year. But their music curation wasn't good so I jumped back to Spotify. Then I got tired of watching Youtube ads so now I just pay for both...
- TheHegemon 9y ago
  I'm surprised as I've found Google Music's radio feature is a lot better at finding music I would like. Spotify used to play music that was slightly related and would throw me off all the time.
eveningcoffee 9y ago
>Youtube Red is definitely a better value Well, it is not as it is still Google and then you are forced to give them your real identity through payment details. I understand that many people have already done that by other means but such factors are important for me.
nikanj 9y ago
For me, Spotify's moat is the music that keeps on playing when I lock my phone.
- majani 9y ago
  Background play is one of YouTube Red's features as well.
- ClassyJacket 9y ago
  Youtube Red and Google Play Music both have that, and both come together for the price of just Spotify. That being said, I'm a Spotify subscriber, because its apps are the best.
pjc50 9y ago
"Youtube red is not available in the United Kingdom"
- mrweasel 9y ago
  It's really weird that Youtube Red isn't available in countries outside the US. Many of the Youtube ads make very little sense outside the US (not all of cause), so one would think that there would be more money to be made from Red than in the US, vs. having ads. Even the localised ads are for the same five or six companies, it's really annoying at this point. I do feel bad about using an adblock, because I do think that content creators should get paid for their work, but by not offering Youtube Red here, I'm deliberately being prevented from paying for content.

peterjlee 9y ago

I was using Spotify then jumped ship to Youtube Red and used Google Music for about a year. But their music curation wasn't good so I jumped back to Spotify. Then I got tired of watching Youtube ads so now I just pay for both...

TheHegemon 9y ago
I'm surprised as I've found Google Music's radio feature is a lot better at finding music I would like. Spotify used to play music that was slightly related and would throw me off all the time.

eveningcoffee 9y ago

>Youtube Red is definitely a better value Well, it is not as it is still Google and then you are forced to give them your real identity through payment details. I understand that many people have already done that by other means but such factors are important for me.

nikanj 9y ago

For me, Spotify's moat is the music that keeps on playing when I lock my phone.

majani 9y ago
Background play is one of YouTube Red's features as well.
ClassyJacket 9y ago
Youtube Red and Google Play Music both have that, and both come together for the price of just Spotify. That being said, I'm a Spotify subscriber, because its apps are the best.

pjc50 9y ago

"Youtube red is not available in the United Kingdom"

mrweasel 9y ago
It's really weird that Youtube Red isn't available in countries outside the US. Many of the Youtube ads make very little sense outside the US (not all of cause), so one would think that there would be more money to be made from Red than in the US, vs. having ads. Even the localised ads are for the same five or six companies, it's really annoying at this point. I do feel bad about using an adblock, because I do think that content creators should get paid for their work, but by not offering Youtube Red here, I'm deliberately being prevented from paying for content.