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The committee also calls on Tesla to release clear policies on how Fremont factory workers can get promoted, adding that "there are no guidelines for what is ex

by Kenji 9y ago

The committee also calls on Tesla to release clear policies on how Fremont factory workers can get promoted, adding that "there are no guidelines for what is expected of us, or what defines success." Uh, what? Do they expect a checklist with items like "be there for 9 hours a day" and so on? Frankly, people who need such a list are not the ones who deserve a promotion - those who do deserve it just work away at the problems and add value to whatever they put their hands on.

skybrian 9y ago
For software engineers it would be something vaguer like showing that you've succeeded on a project with sufficient complexity. But I don't know what the equivalent would be for factory workers.
- landon32 9y ago
  It'd be fine to say something like "demonstrated exceptional reliability and proficiency in operating their machinery" could work. I know nothing about factories though
inetknght 9y ago
Yes and no. If you're a factory worker you aren't often given a lot of room (or, especially, time) to try to innovate. You have a task, you need to complete that task, and you need to get it done using a specific method. Any other method could break legal requirements, require recertification, et al.
devwastaken 9y ago
>those who do deserve it just work away at the problems and add value to whatever they put their hands on. I think you're missing the point entirely, because that statement is extremely vague. "Just keep working" is what you're saying, but it highly depends upon what kind of 'work' you're doing, and how you're doing it. Politics, and human nature gets in the way of that whole notion that those who deserve a promotion, get one. Guidelines probably won't help with that, but its always good to demand anyways.
Raphmedia 9y ago
Every workplace should have a clear definition of what is expected of the workforce and of what defines success. Otherwise it will simply be a shifting goalpost.

by Kenji 9y ago

skybrian 9y ago

For software engineers it would be something vaguer like showing that you've succeeded on a project with sufficient complexity. But I don't know what the equivalent would be for factory workers.

landon32 9y ago
It'd be fine to say something like "demonstrated exceptional reliability and proficiency in operating their machinery" could work. I know nothing about factories though

inetknght 9y ago

Yes and no. If you're a factory worker you aren't often given a lot of room (or, especially, time) to try to innovate. You have a task, you need to complete that task, and you need to get it done using a specific method. Any other method could break legal requirements, require recertification, et al.

devwastaken 9y ago

>those who do deserve it just work away at the problems and add value to whatever they put their hands on. I think you're missing the point entirely, because that statement is extremely vague. "Just keep working" is what you're saying, but it highly depends upon what kind of 'work' you're doing, and how you're doing it. Politics, and human nature gets in the way of that whole notion that those who deserve a promotion, get one. Guidelines probably won't help with that, but its always good to demand anyways.

Raphmedia 9y ago

Every workplace should have a clear definition of what is expected of the workforce and of what defines success. Otherwise it will simply be a shifting goalpost.