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There's plenty of people who get up to things that would result in severe professional damage if it became public knowledge - I know a handful of teachers who a

There's plenty of people who get up to things that would result in severe professional damage if it became public knowledge - I know a handful of teachers who are into BDSM in their private lives who are eternally terrified of their employers or a journalist catching wind. "Some stranger" isn't necessarily the issue, it's someone who has the ability to harm you that's the issue.

digi_owl 9y ago
Or look at the short term Mozilla CEO that was ousted over a public outcry regarding similar private matters. Edit: Hrmf, never mind. Egg on my face.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  Publicly-disclosed (by legal mandate) financial sponsorship of a public advocacy campaign on a public policy matter is about as far as you can be from a “private matter”.
  - digi_owl 9y ago
    Hrmf, did i get my CEOs confused. Could have sworn there was some BDSM stuff involved as well. Or was that some other FOSS project?
    - dragonwriter 9y ago
      > Could have sworn there was some BDSM stuff involved as well. Well, not with Eich. I don't think there was another short-term Mozilla CEO ousted among public controversy. ISTR participation in Gor fandom being brought up alongside sexual harassment/abuse claims for a prominent community figure (maybe Jacob Applebaum? I thought it was him, but I don't see that element mentioned in any of the articles on him, so it may have been someone else) but I don't remember that or consensual BDSM related activity being the central concern in any ouster. EDIT: As a sibling comment suggest, the Gor issue was with Larry Garfield.
    - vertex-four 9y ago
      The only well-known techie BDSM stuff I know of was not a CEO - it was Larry Garfield of the Drupal community.
jancsika 9y ago
I find that to be an awkward form of argument because any category that is sufficiently taboo is going to split the audience into two camps-- a small group who empathize with the practitioners and a larger group who don't. (Otherwise it wouldn't be a taboo.) The problem at hand is that Google and others are scooping up everyone's data. A change in the way these companies decide to use that data can have an effect on everyone's lives, but without anything like a Congressional Budget Office or public debate to gauge whether the benefits of those changes outweigh the costs for the people who are affected.

digi_owl 9y ago

Or look at the short term Mozilla CEO that was ousted over a public outcry regarding similar private matters. Edit: Hrmf, never mind. Egg on my face.

dragonwriter 9y ago
Publicly-disclosed (by legal mandate) financial sponsorship of a public advocacy campaign on a public policy matter is about as far as you can be from a “private matter”.
- digi_owl 9y ago
  Hrmf, did i get my CEOs confused. Could have sworn there was some BDSM stuff involved as well. Or was that some other FOSS project?
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > Could have sworn there was some BDSM stuff involved as well. Well, not with Eich. I don't think there was another short-term Mozilla CEO ousted among public controversy. ISTR participation in Gor fandom being brought up alongside sexual harassment/abuse claims for a prominent community figure (maybe Jacob Applebaum? I thought it was him, but I don't see that element mentioned in any of the articles on him, so it may have been someone else) but I don't remember that or consensual BDSM related activity being the central concern in any ouster. EDIT: As a sibling comment suggest, the Gor issue was with Larry Garfield.
  - vertex-four 9y ago
    The only well-known techie BDSM stuff I know of was not a CEO - it was Larry Garfield of the Drupal community.

jancsika 9y ago

I find that to be an awkward form of argument because any category that is sufficiently taboo is going to split the audience into two camps-- a small group who empathize with the practitioners and a larger group who don't. (Otherwise it wouldn't be a taboo.) The problem at hand is that Google and others are scooping up everyone's data. A change in the way these companies decide to use that data can have an effect on everyone's lives, but without anything like a Congressional Budget Office or public debate to gauge whether the benefits of those changes outweigh the costs for the people who are affected.