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There's no misunderstandings on my part, bringing up the "hedonic treadmill" (with all the "I need to work longer to afford/spend more time on my hobby" that it

There's no misunderstandings on my part, bringing up the "hedonic treadmill" (with all the "I need to work longer to afford/spend more time on my hobby" that it entails) was fully intended and not confused in the least bit. In my posts I've related what I've observed living in Peru and Canada. You seem to have a problem with my observations because they make you feel bad and you feel alluded to. This isn't my problem, if you feel like it doesn't apply to you and your circles, you do you. I know people that fit those cartoonish stereotypes. It's not meant to be a statistical overview, just a possible trend Canadians could be sliding into. I also do not understand at all that little hobby list you made. I could make a similar one, as a Japanese learner boxer who likes board games, reading, and hiking. I still find time to cook and clean. I get my perception of people who pay for menial services from people I know who pay for menial services. So do many journalists, probably. If you feel this doesn't apply to you, just skip along.

wutbrodo 9y ago
> You seem to have a problem with my observations because they make you feel bad and you feel alluded to. This isn't my problem, if you feel like it doesn't apply to you and your circles, you do you. I know people that fit those cartoonish stereotypes. It's not meant to be a statistical overview, just a possible trend Canadians could be sliding into. It's not a personal reaction as much as the fact that you're overgeneralizing enough that it changes your fundamental point; upon that being pointed out, you basically changed the subject to multiple unrelated things. > In my posts I've related what I've observed living in Peru and Canada. I'm sorry, but this claim that you're only speaking of what you've observed where you are is bullshit. In your last comment, you claim that Silicon Valley as "an assisted-living community for people in their 20s funded by venture capital" is an apt descriptor. This is exactly the kind of overgeneralizing I'm talking about, and suddenly hiding behind "no no I'm just talking about the people I've seen in my part of Canada" is in direct contradiction. You're just over-extrapolating your own personality and those of your acquaintances to a region a thousand miles away. This isn't just pedantry; your point changes pretty substantially when you change from claiming that this reaction to increased leisure time is widespread vs a potential pitfall. Your assertion that you can't wait for this "craze" to end only further contradicts your newly-narrow claim that you're only observing a possible pitfall. > I also do not understand at all that little hobby list you made. I could make a similar one, as a Japanese learner boxer who likes board games, reading, and hiking. I still find time to cook and clean. If you're having this much trouble following the conversation, I don't see the point in continuing. The point of this (incomplete) list was to help you through your bizarre confusion between the entirely-unrelated concepts of the hedonic treadmill and having more leisure time (which is why I put the dollar costs next to each activity). It's great for you that you've reached the boundary of interesting things to do with your free time, but it's pretty odd to look down on those who have found more things that interest them. My list wasn't even close to complete; it just consisted of a sample of my cheapest hobbies since that's the point I was trying to make.

wutbrodo 9y ago

> You seem to have a problem with my observations because they make you feel bad and you feel alluded to. This isn't my problem, if you feel like it doesn't apply to you and your circles, you do you. I know people that fit those cartoonish stereotypes. It's not meant to be a statistical overview, just a possible trend Canadians could be sliding into. It's not a personal reaction as much as the fact that you're overgeneralizing enough that it changes your fundamental point; upon that being pointed out, you basically changed the subject to multiple unrelated things. > In my posts I've related what I've observed living in Peru and Canada. I'm sorry, but this claim that you're only speaking of what you've observed where you are is bullshit. In your last comment, you claim that Silicon Valley as "an assisted-living community for people in their 20s funded by venture capital" is an apt descriptor. This is exactly the kind of overgeneralizing I'm talking about, and suddenly hiding behind "no no I'm just talking about the people I've seen in my part of Canada" is in direct contradiction. You're just over-extrapolating your own personality and those of your acquaintances to a region a thousand miles away. This isn't just pedantry; your point changes pretty substantially when you change from claiming that this reaction to increased leisure time is widespread vs a potential pitfall. Your assertion that you can't wait for this "craze" to end only further contradicts your newly-narrow claim that you're only observing a possible pitfall. > I also do not understand at all that little hobby list you made. I could make a similar one, as a Japanese learner boxer who likes board games, reading, and hiking. I still find time to cook and clean. If you're having this much trouble following the conversation, I don't see the point in continuing. The point of this (incomplete) list was to help you through your bizarre confusion between the entirely-unrelated concepts of the hedonic treadmill and having more leisure time (which is why I put the dollar costs next to each activity). It's great for you that you've reached the boundary of interesting things to do with your free time, but it's pretty odd to look down on those who have found more things that interest them. My list wasn't even close to complete; it just consisted of a sample of my cheapest hobbies since that's the point I was trying to make.