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The people usually opposed are the ones who wish to maintain some sort of control.
by JustSomeNobody 9y ago
The people usually opposed are the ones who wish to maintain some sort of control.
- gbacon 9y agoThe proponents are the ones who will not mind their own business. Rock ’Em Sock ’Em Strawmen!
- PhasmaFelis 9y agoWhy is this (currently) being downvoted? The purpose of closed salaries is to keep wages down.
- RodericDay 9y agoEveryone opposed to public salaries thinks they're the special snowflakes with a secret sweetheart deal.
- stephengillie 9y agoSocialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires. - John Steinbeck (disputed)
- adrianratnapala 9y agoThis is a comforting but dangerous illusion for the American left. It leads to failed political tactics like John Kerry's "misery index", where he tried to tell voters how badly off they were. This stance fools the left into thinking they need to tell the working class that they are losers. People react badly to that; they will happily forgo new welfare programs and regulatory subsidies and will instead rail against the status assertions behind it all. Which brings us to Trumpism...
- ptrckbrwn 9y ago^ found the libertarian
- PhasmaFelis 9y agoIt just baffles me that people are drive-by downvoting this on Hacker News of all places. I think most of us here agree that transparency is desirable in government, software development, security, and so many other areas. Why do employers get a pass with the tired old "we're keeping secrets from you for your own good" line?
- BurningFrog 9y agoHN also agrees that privacy is desirable in just about as many areas.
- PhasmaFelis 9y agoHow is my privacy protected by a rule that says I'm not allowed to disclose my salary to my coworkers? Because that's what we're talking about, not just that the company doesn't publish salaries.
- Retra 9y agoWell, I down-voted it because it's vague, in-actionable, and conspiratorial.
- PhasmaFelis 9y agoAre you arguing that the purpose of secret salaries isn't to keep employees from a better understanding of how much the company would be willing to pay them? We can have that discussion, but it would help if you made a coherent counterproposal. If you claim that open salaries cause significant friction between employees, for example, please cite comparisons to the countries and business where open salaries are common; there's enough of them that data should be available.
- Retra 9y agoI've made no argument at all. If you'd seriously like me to make one, I'm going to require funding.