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This is typical HN: Nothing can please me because I am intelligent advanced than the rest of the crowd. Instead acting like whiny baby. The suggestion that Ne

This is typical HN: Nothing can please me because I am intelligent advanced than the rest of the crowd. Instead acting like whiny baby. The suggestion that Netflix get rid of scale rating is pure conspiracy, without any evidence to back it up. Reminders: 1. Youtube Red: 10 dollars 2. HBO Now: 15 dollars 3. Amazon Prime: 9 dollars 4. Youtube TV: 35 dollars 5. Watch a movie: 10 dollars on average. Maybe the OP is suggesting piracy? That is the only way I could bring out of my mind for cheaper price for any (relatively) well produced content.

Rjevski 9y ago
Piracy is not a bad deal actually - currently if I want all the movies and music I'd have to sign up for multiple streaming services, totalling about 50$ a month. And even then, there's no guarantee I will actually get all the music and movies I want - there's always that one artist/producer that doesn't want their stuff on streaming services for some awful reason. Not to mention region locking, etc. I can't see myself giving up piracy just yet, but I would love it if streaming services cut the crap and improve their service.
- jamespo 9y ago
  So if Netflix increased their library, cut their prices and subsequently increased their debt even more you'd consider them?
  - Rjevski 9y ago
    If Netflix could provide all my movie watching needs then yes I'll consider them. As a consumer I couldn't care less about their debt, I just want a solution that allows me watch movies without stealing them, but until then I'll happily steal - it's a problem this industry created for themselves so it's up to them to fix it.
    - jezclaremurugan 9y ago
      Crappy service doesn't give a license to steal. While the entertainment industry has done a lot of harm like all the DRMs etc. the ethical way is to boycott and not steal. For ex. if you believe in free software use GNU software - don't steal closed source software.
      - Rjevski 9y ago
        Stealing might not have been the right word here. Stealing means you take something away from someone and that someone no longer has the thing you took. In this case however I'm not taking anything away, I am merely denying them of revenue they wouldn't have had in the first place because I am not going to pay 50$/month for streaming services.
NegatioN 9y ago
What's bothering me more than price (per service, I won't buy all of them at once), is the division of content across platforms. With piracy it's still to this day more usable in the sense that you can back up all downloads to a private kodi-server (or similar), and have a single access-point. Question: Does anyone on HN know about any ways to consolidate either music or video-content across multiple providers?
- pricechild 9y ago
  I think we're starting to see existing providers offering that. YouView in the UK was the first I saw. Now Fire TVs from Amazon display titles from apps (e.g. Netflix and a bunch of others I don't use) as clearly as first-party items. There'll be a square for House of Cards right next to American Gods.
  - bshimmin 9y ago
    Yeah. I have a Fire TV Stick and half the time I'm not even sure what service I'm watching something on - encouraged in part by the search function bringing up all results from different providers at once.
Shivetya 9y ago
Personally I do not like the loss of the star system because it gave more granularity to ratings than I can detect now. One issue I think many have with Netflix is that if you are into superhero/comic books you are all set, if not, well not so much as it seems to occupy way to much space in their catalog. It will be interesting to see the shakeout in the industry because I doubt it can sustain all these new costs. People bemoaned to cost of cable but its quickly becoming obvious that you can exceed it by having to hit so many subscription services. One alternative is to use a service like HBOGo, record the seasons of the show you want and unsubscribe all in one month. While this might not be good for some who want to be current right now it can save substantial money when you only want one show.
neonhomer 9y ago
I would also add Redbox to the list. $2 for a bluray rental.
dwighttk 9y ago
library: free/taxes
bryanlarsen 9y ago
You don't have to resort to piracy to get high quality content, just get some rabbit ears and pull in OTA TV, especially if you connect it to a DVR. And the parent post mentioned kids and Paw Patrol. You don't have to pay for that: youtube.com/tvokids has Paw Patrol plus my 2 kids' favorite shows: Dino Dana & Odd Squad. (Seriously, Odd Squad is awesome, I enjoy it too). We're lucky enough to live in Ontario Canada where TVO comes over the air, but I think PBS also has a great selection. TVO runs kids programming continuously until 7PM (and then it's kids friendly nature shows until bedtime).
mnm1 9y ago
"The suggestion that Netflix get rid of scale rating is pure conspiracy, without any evidence to back it up." This has already happened, BTW, and a quick search would have shown you that, but I'm sure you were much too busy writing up your personal insults above to do any research. https://deadline.com/2017/04/netflix-discontinues-star-ratings-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-1202061983/ https://deadline.com/2017/04/netflix-discontinues-star-ratin... http://ew.com/tv/2017/03/16/netflix-star-ratings/ http://ew.com/tv/2017/03/16/netflix-star-ratings/ http://www.businessinsider.com/why-netflix-replaced-its-5-star-rating-system-2017-4 http://www.businessinsider.com/why-netflix-replaced-its-5-st...

Rjevski 9y ago

Piracy is not a bad deal actually - currently if I want all the movies and music I'd have to sign up for multiple streaming services, totalling about 50$ a month. And even then, there's no guarantee I will actually get all the music and movies I want - there's always that one artist/producer that doesn't want their stuff on streaming services for some awful reason. Not to mention region locking, etc. I can't see myself giving up piracy just yet, but I would love it if streaming services cut the crap and improve their service.

jamespo 9y ago
So if Netflix increased their library, cut their prices and subsequently increased their debt even more you'd consider them?
- Rjevski 9y ago
  If Netflix could provide all my movie watching needs then yes I'll consider them. As a consumer I couldn't care less about their debt, I just want a solution that allows me watch movies without stealing them, but until then I'll happily steal - it's a problem this industry created for themselves so it's up to them to fix it.
  - jezclaremurugan 9y ago
    Crappy service doesn't give a license to steal. While the entertainment industry has done a lot of harm like all the DRMs etc. the ethical way is to boycott and not steal. For ex. if you believe in free software use GNU software - don't steal closed source software.
    - Rjevski 9y ago
      Stealing might not have been the right word here. Stealing means you take something away from someone and that someone no longer has the thing you took. In this case however I'm not taking anything away, I am merely denying them of revenue they wouldn't have had in the first place because I am not going to pay 50$/month for streaming services.

NegatioN 9y ago

What's bothering me more than price (per service, I won't buy all of them at once), is the division of content across platforms. With piracy it's still to this day more usable in the sense that you can back up all downloads to a private kodi-server (or similar), and have a single access-point. Question: Does anyone on HN know about any ways to consolidate either music or video-content across multiple providers?

pricechild 9y ago
I think we're starting to see existing providers offering that. YouView in the UK was the first I saw. Now Fire TVs from Amazon display titles from apps (e.g. Netflix and a bunch of others I don't use) as clearly as first-party items. There'll be a square for House of Cards right next to American Gods.
- bshimmin 9y ago
  Yeah. I have a Fire TV Stick and half the time I'm not even sure what service I'm watching something on - encouraged in part by the search function bringing up all results from different providers at once.

Shivetya 9y ago

Personally I do not like the loss of the star system because it gave more granularity to ratings than I can detect now. One issue I think many have with Netflix is that if you are into superhero/comic books you are all set, if not, well not so much as it seems to occupy way to much space in their catalog. It will be interesting to see the shakeout in the industry because I doubt it can sustain all these new costs. People bemoaned to cost of cable but its quickly becoming obvious that you can exceed it by having to hit so many subscription services. One alternative is to use a service like HBOGo, record the seasons of the show you want and unsubscribe all in one month. While this might not be good for some who want to be current right now it can save substantial money when you only want one show.

neonhomer 9y ago

I would also add Redbox to the list. $2 for a bluray rental.

dwighttk 9y ago

library: free/taxes

bryanlarsen 9y ago

You don't have to resort to piracy to get high quality content, just get some rabbit ears and pull in OTA TV, especially if you connect it to a DVR. And the parent post mentioned kids and Paw Patrol. You don't have to pay for that: youtube.com/tvokids has Paw Patrol plus my 2 kids' favorite shows: Dino Dana & Odd Squad. (Seriously, Odd Squad is awesome, I enjoy it too). We're lucky enough to live in Ontario Canada where TVO comes over the air, but I think PBS also has a great selection. TVO runs kids programming continuously until 7PM (and then it's kids friendly nature shows until bedtime).

mnm1 9y ago

"The suggestion that Netflix get rid of scale rating is pure conspiracy, without any evidence to back it up." This has already happened, BTW, and a quick search would have shown you that, but I'm sure you were much too busy writing up your personal insults above to do any research. https://deadline.com/2017/04/netflix-discontinues-star-ratings-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-1202061983/ https://deadline.com/2017/04/netflix-discontinues-star-ratin... http://ew.com/tv/2017/03/16/netflix-star-ratings/ http://ew.com/tv/2017/03/16/netflix-star-ratings/ http://www.businessinsider.com/why-netflix-replaced-its-5-star-rating-system-2017-4 http://www.businessinsider.com/why-netflix-replaced-its-5-st...