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I'll first state my opinion that I too believe that (to use a different cliche) self-driving cars will be transformative. That being said, I just don't think t
by cletus 9y ago
I'll first state my opinion that I too believe that (to use a different cliche) self-driving cars will be transformative.
That being said, I just don't think they're as close as many think.
What is coming and will continue coming is assisted driving. These cars will be designed for human drivers but the car will just do more of the driving. This will have an incremental increase in safety. I imagine too that bugs will cause deaths and even though this will pale in comparison to the number of motor vehicle deaths we have now, alarmist concerns will stymy automation here.
The holy grail here however isn't assisted driving. It's self-driving and you shouldn't confuse the two. A self-driving car in my mind will not be designed to be driven by a human at all.
There is a lot of low hanging fruit for this but the low hanging fruit isn't that low and there is a long tail of situations a car will need to deal with. I actually wonder if we can design a self driving car without first creating what I can only describe as a "general AI". Anticipating what the other meat bags will do is a huge part of this.
Once this happens (and, again, I think we're talking a long time still) I don't see private ownership of vehicles going away. People like to own things. What you'll see is car ownership disappear in highly urbanized places helped I'm sure by punitive taxing of car ownership ("punitive" here means not subsidizing car ownership like we do now).
I suspect such cars will allow people to live even further from cities when you can work in your car. More people doing it still means a lot of cars on the road.
Self-driving cars just aren't the end of private car ownership. If anything they'll likely be a death blow to taxis. It might be a huge problem for mass transit too.
- tachyonbeam 9y agoIMO, what has even more transformative potential is human-carrying drones. Flying, self-driving taxis. That could really shorten commute time, and allow people to live very far from work. You could easily live 100KM away, and make that commute in 30 minutes. It would completely change urbanization and population density. It's maybe not that far away either. Self-driving air vehicles is in many ways simpler than making something that can understand driving on the road and interacting with human drivers. The main limitation right now is that we aren't quite there yet on battery tech, we maybe need a factor of 2 or 3 improvement in power density for this technology to become inevitable.
- MagnumOpus 9y ago> The main limitation right now is that we aren't quite there yet on battery tech That might be the main tech limitation (don't agree with that either because flight coordination is actually a bigger problem. The actual MAIN limitation is that in an urban area (where 95% of jobs are) no resident is going to stand for helicopter noise by thousands of commuters at all hours. And creating a drone/copter that is quiet while transporting people-sized payloads is a much bigger challenge than creating one which is fuel efficient.