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To say the very least, he is an outspoken feudalist, is opposed to multiculturalism, and is generally considered to be on the far-right, except for issues which

To say the very least, he is an outspoken feudalist, is opposed to multiculturalism, and is generally considered to be on the far-right, except for issues which affect him personally (immigration, homosexuality). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel

nailer 9y ago
The page you mention says he's a libertarian and I see nothing there that would indicate Thiel is on the far right - i.e. he does not support any kind of political violence. I don't know what feudalism is post-middle ages, but being opposed to multiculturalism is fairly common and wouldn't make anyone more or less likeable to most people than being in favour of multiculturalism.
- 1337biz 9y ago
  > but being opposed to multiculturalism is fairly common If only Europe would learn...
- arethuza 9y ago
  I wish we could agree on a standard set of dimensions for political positions as a simple "left" and "right" don't really work... In this case, even though I'm pretty far left by the standards of HN, I would have to point out that the "far right" hardly has a monopoly on political violence.
  - nailer 9y ago
    Of course - I'm not at all asserting the right has a monopoly on political violence. There are far left groups that support political violence: ETA, the Provisional IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah, Antifa, and various socialist dictators (Chavez, Castro, Mao, Stalin) would come to mind.
- albedoa 9y ago
  > The page you mention says he's a libertarian and I see nothing there that would indicate Thiel is on the far right I see you are London-based, so it should be clarified that we are talking about American libertarianism. Your comment is difficult to parse in that context, as libertarians embrace far-right views here. The angle from which they arrive on those views is what defines them.
  - AlexB138 9y ago
    > libertarians embrace far-right views here This is pretty far from being an absolute. You likely mean Libertarians, as in the Libertarian party, not libertarians in general. There are plenty of left leaning American libertarians, myself included. The Libertarian party has some weird ideas, but I would caution against conflating them with the extreme right. Libertarian is a value on a different political axis to left/right, and is counter to authoritarian.
    - albedoa 9y ago
      I agree with you on all points. My main objection is against the claim that one cannot be far-right if he does not embrace political violence, despite all his other views. nailer is saying that Thiel cannot be far-right because he identifies as a libertarian, but it's Thiel's far-right views that would make him far-right, not his identity as a libertarian.
      - nailer 9y ago
        > My main objection is against the claim that one cannot be far-right if he does not embrace political violence I haven't seen anything you post refute that point. Look at the examples given at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics - you'll see the KKK, EDL, Patriots of Ukraine, Blackshirts, etc - the common thread of these groups is their use of violence. > Thiel's far-right views that would make him far-right Thiel's views are fairly common libertarian / conservative views. The far right, is by nature, further to the right of regular right wing views.
    - 9y ago

nailer 9y ago

The page you mention says he's a libertarian and I see nothing there that would indicate Thiel is on the far right - i.e. he does not support any kind of political violence. I don't know what feudalism is post-middle ages, but being opposed to multiculturalism is fairly common and wouldn't make anyone more or less likeable to most people than being in favour of multiculturalism.

1337biz 9y ago
> but being opposed to multiculturalism is fairly common If only Europe would learn...
arethuza 9y ago
I wish we could agree on a standard set of dimensions for political positions as a simple "left" and "right" don't really work... In this case, even though I'm pretty far left by the standards of HN, I would have to point out that the "far right" hardly has a monopoly on political violence.
- nailer 9y ago
  Of course - I'm not at all asserting the right has a monopoly on political violence. There are far left groups that support political violence: ETA, the Provisional IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah, Antifa, and various socialist dictators (Chavez, Castro, Mao, Stalin) would come to mind.
albedoa 9y ago
> The page you mention says he's a libertarian and I see nothing there that would indicate Thiel is on the far right I see you are London-based, so it should be clarified that we are talking about American libertarianism. Your comment is difficult to parse in that context, as libertarians embrace far-right views here. The angle from which they arrive on those views is what defines them.
- AlexB138 9y ago
  > libertarians embrace far-right views here This is pretty far from being an absolute. You likely mean Libertarians, as in the Libertarian party, not libertarians in general. There are plenty of left leaning American libertarians, myself included. The Libertarian party has some weird ideas, but I would caution against conflating them with the extreme right. Libertarian is a value on a different political axis to left/right, and is counter to authoritarian.
  - albedoa 9y ago
    I agree with you on all points. My main objection is against the claim that one cannot be far-right if he does not embrace political violence, despite all his other views. nailer is saying that Thiel cannot be far-right because he identifies as a libertarian, but it's Thiel's far-right views that would make him far-right, not his identity as a libertarian.
    - nailer 9y ago
      > My main objection is against the claim that one cannot be far-right if he does not embrace political violence I haven't seen anything you post refute that point. Look at the examples given at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics - you'll see the KKK, EDL, Patriots of Ukraine, Blackshirts, etc - the common thread of these groups is their use of violence. > Thiel's far-right views that would make him far-right Thiel's views are fairly common libertarian / conservative views. The far right, is by nature, further to the right of regular right wing views.
  - 9y ago