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Exactly. It baffles me how people think political problems can be solved with technological workarounds. What's next, being gay is illegal again so "just hide y

by Kenji 9y ago

Exactly. It baffles me how people think political problems can be solved with technological workarounds. What's next, being gay is illegal again so "just hide your relationship lulz"? Sometimes, I feel like a part of the crowd here is like a bunch of toddlers who try to work around some rules the parents made and feel clever at the same time.

deathhand 9y ago
Ahem..You are talking to a bunch of technologists. Technologists who believe that technology can actually change the world. We can see tech's influence from Arab Spring[1] to Defcon's recent vandalism[2]. We make up the people pushing the buttons behind the scene. In the name of humanity I know I will try everything to keep the Internet free and open and I hope many like minded people will to. Free sharing of ideas is the best way for us to advance. This is why you and OP's comment are detracting and unproductive. We made this. We run the show. [1]https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ghazali_Sulong/publication/234040341_The_Role_of_Modern_Technology_in_Arab_Spring/links/0fcfd50e7b3ecbdd28000000/The-Role-of-Modern-Technology-in-Arab-Spring.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ghazali_Sulong/publicat... [2]https://www.cnet.com/news/everything-looks-like-a-hack-when-youre-paranoid-at-defcon/ https://www.cnet.com/news/everything-looks-like-a-hack-when-...
- lawnchair_larry 9y ago
  That was not vandalism and had nothing to do with defcon. See the story you linked to.
iovrthoughtthis 9y ago
A responce to this by a barrister friend of mine. Re-phrased because I don't remember it verbatim: "We've only been trying technological solutions for the past hundred years and look at what they've achieved. We've been trying political solutions for thousands of years." Though, I agree that we need to be aware of the limitations we and our systems impose on technical solutions. That said, perhaps we should play to our strengths?
- ernst_klim 9y ago
  >We've only been trying technological solutions for the past hundred years and look at what they've achieved Holocaust, Nazi Science, Atomic bombs, Stalin's industrialization, mass surveillance, cold war? Man, 20-th century was such a mess, technology only made that mess more messy, and good stuff was achieved by political discussion, dialog, not because of new technologies (although technologies makes both dialog and murdering much easier)

by Kenji 9y ago

deathhand 9y ago

Ahem..You are talking to a bunch of technologists. Technologists who believe that technology can actually change the world. We can see tech's influence from Arab Spring[1] to Defcon's recent vandalism[2]. We make up the people pushing the buttons behind the scene. In the name of humanity I know I will try everything to keep the Internet free and open and I hope many like minded people will to. Free sharing of ideas is the best way for us to advance. This is why you and OP's comment are detracting and unproductive. We made this. We run the show. [1]https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ghazali_Sulong/publication/234040341_The_Role_of_Modern_Technology_in_Arab_Spring/links/0fcfd50e7b3ecbdd28000000/The-Role-of-Modern-Technology-in-Arab-Spring.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ghazali_Sulong/publicat... [2]https://www.cnet.com/news/everything-looks-like-a-hack-when-youre-paranoid-at-defcon/ https://www.cnet.com/news/everything-looks-like-a-hack-when-...

lawnchair_larry 9y ago
That was not vandalism and had nothing to do with defcon. See the story you linked to.

iovrthoughtthis 9y ago

A responce to this by a barrister friend of mine. Re-phrased because I don't remember it verbatim: "We've only been trying technological solutions for the past hundred years and look at what they've achieved. We've been trying political solutions for thousands of years." Though, I agree that we need to be aware of the limitations we and our systems impose on technical solutions. That said, perhaps we should play to our strengths?

ernst_klim 9y ago
>We've only been trying technological solutions for the past hundred years and look at what they've achieved Holocaust, Nazi Science, Atomic bombs, Stalin's industrialization, mass surveillance, cold war? Man, 20-th century was such a mess, technology only made that mess more messy, and good stuff was achieved by political discussion, dialog, not because of new technologies (although technologies makes both dialog and murdering much easier)