You're just not going to get anywhere trying to argue word definition on the Internet, even (especially) where it matters the most, like where if you're wrong y

You're just not going to get anywhere trying to argue word definition on the Internet, even (especially) where it matters the most, like where if you're wrong you've done wasted a decade of your life. You're just going to get drowned out by people with way more invested in their failure than you have in your success. Sad, but it's just human nature.